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Dave H 
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 Topic: Clutch Replacement (Toro Z149) Update
Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 3:42pm |
Any trick of the trade on reinstalling the Z Master clutch. I am old and the thing is heavy so I am running out of poop trying to hold the clutch up in the air and hitting the slot in the crank with the spline in the clutch. I have watched a pile of you tubes. My problem is laying on my back, holding the clutch up in the air and getting the spine aligned before my arms give out. All the installs on you tube appear that the mower is nicely nestled on its side.
I have considered taking the deck off and hoisting the thing up on its side, but that is another nut roll.
Can someone save this old man's day? Thanx
Also there is a reinforcement frame bar running from side to side just under the clutch.
Edited by Dave H - 12 Jan 2022 at 12:45pm
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 6:00pm |
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I picked my SS4235 up from the rear with the boom pole on the tractor. I am too old to be laying underneath that thing. HTH
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Dave H
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 6:33pm |
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I know Hubert. I picked up on the rear with the mechanical cherry picker. But then I chickened out on getting under there. Think I figured out a way to safety that picker up there. I am gonna give that a shot tomorrow before the blizzard, nothing else.
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DiyDave
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 6:39pm |
I did the one on my Altoz 610 I, it has a much heavier clutch. My trick was to cuss, extra loud, and with vigor! Next time I will get me a 12" or so length of 1/2 NF all-thread, and some extra nuts. All thread through the bushing and clutch, nuts to take up the slack, as the clutch is raised. Once you get it up, cut a 2 X 4 to hold it temporary, while you remove the all-thread and bolt it up! 
Here is one of them sideways videos, so's others can get a look at what is involved:
Sometime you just gotta get mad at them damned eggs!
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Dave H
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 7:43pm |
Yeah Dave, I watched that vid earlier today - think he had it on its side for the movies. 
And I bet it thundered in the morning after Newman ate them eggs.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2021 at 9:10pm |
I have an I-beam cross the garage an duse a chain hoist on a trolley to lift the front ends of 'riders' I work on. FIRST I drain the gas tanks though...... I can get them about 60-75* up, good steep angle THEN I comfortably sit in an 'office' chair to work on the repairs. I swear them clutches get heavier every year I work on them ! Of ALL the riders I've had in the past 30 years, the AC130 has been the EASIEST to work on. The deck easily comes of and on, replacing the belt is almost 'fun'. Actually looking forward to next summer to see how it performs.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2022 at 2:33pm |
Diy, it took a little while to soak in. Next time I am in town I am gonna get a longer bolt to screw into the shaft an get the clutch started. Don't know if I could find national fine stuff to work with.
Just hoping the threads are not metric. 
Hopefully some of the world will come back to life Monday.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2022 at 2:50pm |
probably be 3/8-24 or 7/16-20. you've got the 'real' bolt, see which nuts fits, take nut to store or you'll lose the real bolt 'somewhere'........ I 'polish' the shaft good and shiny, add a generous amount of neverseize and smear it all over good.if you have a spare pulley, use that to test the fit. shaft will be 1" ( industry standard) though maybe 1 1/8" if high HP engine. Other trick is to get key at say 12 oclock, then rotate the PTO as needed while it's on you lap THEN install. PTO has to not only line up with keyway it has to 'lock' onto some 'bar' or 'notch' to keep from spinning.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2022 at 6:02pm |
If you are going to cuss with vigor you have to get the right combination of vulgarities and personal foul insults to said machine. Won't work otherwise. |
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Posted: 01 Jan 2022 at 8:23pm |
 jaybmiller wrote:
probably be 3/8-24 or 7/16-20. you've got the 'real' bolt, see which nuts fits, take nut to store or you'll lose the real bolt 'somewhere'........ I 'polish' the shaft good and shiny, add a generous amount of neverseize and smear it all over good.if you have a spare pulley, use that to test the fit. shaft will be 1" ( industry standard) though maybe 1 1/8" if high HP engine. Other trick is to get key at say 12 oclock, then rotate the PTO as needed while it's on you lap THEN install. PTO has to not only line up with keyway it has to 'lock' onto some 'bar' or 'notch' to keep from spinning.
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All you really need to know is the wrench size that took out the bolt you removed. 3/4" wrench=1/2"bolt, 5/8"=7/16"bolt, and 9/16"= 3/8" bolt. Mcmaster-Carr will have the fine all-thread, if local sources don't.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2022 at 12:44pm |
OK folks, it got up to a whopping 45 degrees and I got suited up, pounded on my chest, activated my four letter vocabulary and got in the t**s up pos under the mower. I did hit the edges of the key way with a file - and wham the clutch slipped right on. Propped it up, took the long bolt out and put the correct bolt in there. Thanks again for the idea, Oh and I did have the clutch on the kitchen counter over night.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2022 at 3:12pm |
GREAT, happy wife-happy life. Yes, lightly filing the key is a good idea. Couple swipes with a small,flat bastard can make life nicer !! Hope the PTO is 'locked' in the correct position. I forgot one day..powered it, it spun, broke wires...learned some Polish 4 letter words that day....
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Posted: 12 Jan 2022 at 4:35pm |
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Yep, she is "locked" jay. This one has a link that runs from one of the notches in the clutch to an anchor that bolts thru the frame/pan.
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