Char-lynn steering motor timing?

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   Ok, I'm officially confused.

Power steering motor on my '55 WD45 was leaking fluid while parked.  I took the nose piece off(output side) and found a simple seal.  No problem, and no timing issues.  The rest decided it was time to strike out on its own, and it falls to the floor.  Now the rest is disassembled, whether I liked it or not.  OK, I've run a witness line up the side of the motor, so I know which way each slice went together.

I pull the other end, replace the seal in the case, and slide the thing back together.  Didn't even have the pin out of the thing, just take the end cap off, replace seal, put inner o ring in grove , line up witness mark and put bolts back together.

I think all is good, till I mount her back where she belongs, but to my surprise, the tractor now steers ME!  The steering wheel just jerks back and forth like a spaz, and when you stop it, it fights you.

I screwed SOMETHING up, but lord only knows what it could have been.  What did I do?  What needs aligned besides the slices?  Like I said, I know there's a pin in the input shaft, as I had to make sure it didn't dislodge, which it didn't.  I thought I was all good.  Should I have lined the drive gear some how?  Did I not do that right?  Can someone please help me?  I'm at a loss

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sling-it Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote sling-it Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Char-lynn steering motor timing? Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 8:22pm
	Ok, I'm officially confused. Power steering motor on my '55 WD45 was leaking fluid while parked. I took the nose piece off(output side) and found a simple seal. No problem, and no timing issues. The rest decided it was time to strike out on its own, and it falls to the floor. Now the rest is disassembled, whether I liked it or not. OK, I've run a witness line up the side of the motor, so I know which way each slice went together. I pull the other end, replace the seal in the case, and slide the thing back together. Didn't even have the pin out of the thing, just take the end cap off, replace seal, put inner o ring in grove , line up witness mark and put bolts back together. I think all is good, till I mount her back where she belongs, but to my surprise, the tractor now steers ME! The steering wheel just jerks back and forth like a spaz, and when you stop it, it fights you. I screwed SOMETHING up, but lord only knows what it could have been. What did I do? What needs aligned besides the slices? Like I said, I know there's a pin in the input shaft, as I had to make sure it didn't dislodge, which it didn't. I thought I was all good. Should I have lined the drive gear some how? Did I not do that right? Can someone please help me? I'm at a loss

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MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 9:28pm
	If I remember right, the pin lines with the valley of star gear. MACK

sling-it Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote sling-it Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 10:15pm
	I've done some searching, and can only find info on different models. Pretty much it goes like this: Align timing dot on input shaft with bolt hole, align star point to that dot rotate motor to align bolt holes. There is no dot, but I do have a keyway on the input shaft, which happens to be aligned with the cross pin. So I should align the valley with the cross pin? Can anyone else verify this? Thanks!

Michael V (NM) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michael V (NM) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 9:38am
	I put some pics of the timing instructions on here bout 3-4 months ago , might try a search?? either search my posts or maybe char-lynn

Michael V (NM) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michael V (NM) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 9:46am
	I done a search and all I get is error message I'll try the instructions again, sorry for the size

sling-it Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote sling-it Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 10:34am
	Well I'll be darned! THANK YOU! I did a search, but definitely did not find your post. This will help a lot. No wonder she didn't work right. Now my old girl shall live again :D

Rltool Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Jun 2013 Location: Middleville ,MI Points: 1822	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rltool Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 10:47am
	I had it saved Michael. Valuable information. Ray W. http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105323&title=power-steering

Michael V (NM) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michael V (NM) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 12:45pm
	maybe someone could resize this and make a top of the page sticky?? good info with a part number. Moderators?? seems like char-lynn power steering comes up on a fairly regular schedule

sling-it Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote sling-it Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2015 at 11:03pm
	I wanted to thank you guys for the help! Once apart, I went to the local hydraulic shop who hooked me up with the right seals. After putting it together as shown, this thing works like the day it was built. No more leaking, no sticking spot, nothing. Just pure wheel spinning ease.