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Can a rotobaler be broken down for transport?
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    Posted: 25 Apr 2010 at 9:01pm
Was wondering if a rotobaler can be broken down easily for transport?  I have never done it and was wondering how easily it could be done and how wide of a trailer would it be to fit the pieces on?
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Good question, I have 2 I can have for free, I just have to haul them away....
 
Inquiring minds want to know...
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If I recall the drawbar was made to close up so that transportation and towing was easier.  When they came off the flat cars the header was off and attached straight up.  We hauled them on a truck one at a time with the wheels off.  We pulled them off sideways after attaching the drawbar and mounting the tires.
If you can get a manual I believe it will show how this was done.
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If you have an 8 foot wide trailer to load one on all you need is an extra axle setup like the one we use.  With this it allows you to load it easily on a trailer.  If you need to narrow it up while on the trailer you can pull the right axle and wheel off. 




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Originally posted by Bill Long Bill Long wrote:

If I recall the drawbar was made to close up so that transportation and towing was easier.  When they came off the flat cars the header was off and attached straight up.  We hauled them on a truck one at a time with the wheels off.  We pulled them off sideways after attaching the drawbar and mounting the tires.
If you can get a manual I believe it will show how this was done.
Good Luck!
Bill Long

Bill, your description of how the rotobaler came from the factory reminded me of seeing them that way at my families AC dealership.
Here is an an arial photo of the business dated 1955 and their is one sitting in the oval area in front of the shop.
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Denny Stork did it with a standard trailer. IIRC he took the header off, removed the axle and the tongue and it all fit on a 6x16 trailer. Maybe he will add a picture for us. The down side is that you will need and endloader or forklift to get it on your trailer.
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I had one moved on a standard tilt-deck wrecker. Nearly all on back roads, though. The right wheel hung over the side of the deck, and we blocked under that side and chained it down. Worked fine for the 25 miles or so that we had to cover.
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I hitched mine to the back of the truck and towed it 50 miles, at 45 mph and it towed nice. Depending on how far you have to go and its condition you could just tow it. 
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It takes almost 9' to haul a Roto Baler. I like the idea JimIA has for his. My Roto baler has a small steel wheel mounted on the frame about 2" from the ground, I hauled it home on an 8" trailer.
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Chuck, I did this a few years ago.  A guy was supposed to show up with a backhoe to help load, but never showed up.  Like the others had mentioned, I studied the way Allis shipped them broken down on rail cars.  Two people, standard tools, two floor jacks, one dog (I don't know what the hell for) and 2 1/2 hours work.  Knowing how, you can knock an hour off that.  I did a photo journal of the stages if you want, I can email it to you.  Or use this link
http://public.fotki.com/dave994/roto-baler/

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Originally posted by Dave Richards (WV) Dave Richards (WV) wrote:

...one dog (I don't know what the hell for)
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Dave, thank you so much for sending me the information.   It gives me a good idea of what I am looking at.   This guy has two of them, but I think I am going to have my hands full just getting one home.  How much does a rotobaler weigh complete? 
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Dave, Great pictorial.
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Originally posted by ChuckLuedtkeSEWI ChuckLuedtkeSEWI wrote:

How much does a rotobaler weigh complete? 


The book lists the shipping weight at 2300 lbs.


How far do you have to haul them?
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I think it's close to 100 miles, so I think that's alot to pull it home. 
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I would have pulled mine 100 miles had it been that far away (in fact going to look at another that is about that far away...). Just have good tires and take a grease gun for the axle bushings. 
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I pulled mine home 100mi. greasing the wheels every 15 or so.  Made hitch to offset baler behind truck.  Worked good, could have the baler home in half the time it takes to break it down.
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