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dfwallis
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Topic: CA Hydraulic/Transmission OilPosted: Yesterday at 12:26pm |
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CA recommended SAE 10W <40f, 20W >40f
I bought hydraulic fluid at NAPA, showed them a picture of the 10W20 product I wanted, paid, but they brought out a 30W product and put it in the car. I didn't pay attention that they didn't give me what I asked for. Anyway, the pump works well but sometimes it takes a while longer than desired to prime. Nobody uses SAE oil ratings for hydraulic fluid any more, and it's not clear what the best ISO grade to use is: SAE 10 weight viscosity: 45mm**2/s at 40C, 7.0mm**2/s at 100C SAE 20 weight: 61mm**2/s at 40C, 8.5mm**2/s at 100C ISO 32 weight: 32mm**2/s at 40C, 5.5mm**2/s at 100C ISO 46 weight: 46mm**2/s at 40C, 7.0mm**2/s at 100C ISO 68 weight: 68mm**2/s at 40C, 9.5mm**2/s at 100C None of the ISO ratings match the original specs. I don't suppose those were too precise. I'm inclined to go with ISO46AW. But that seems to equate more closely to a SAE 10 weight. Hopefully, the "AW" additives will help make up for any differences. yes/no? Why are they rating these at 40C??? that's 104F (and 212F).
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Les Kerf
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Posted: Yesterday at 1:26pm |
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Considering the 'relatively' light work your CA will likely see in Texas, I would use the ISO 32. If you intend to cultivate cotton in 95 degree heat for 12 hours at a time then use the ISO 46. The ISO 32 works perfectly in my somewhat cooler climate here in northern Idaho, ISO 46 is somewhat sluggish.
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Dennis J OPKs
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Posted: Yesterday at 1:46pm |
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I have used straight 30w non-detergent in KS, not zero temps and it works fine.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 22 hours 19 minutes ago at 5:34pm |
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Why wouldn't one use 821XL/PermaTran/HyTran/HyGard ??? All readily available and correct everything mixed in.
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dfwallis
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Posted: 22 hours 12 minutes ago at 5:41pm |
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At some point, AC added a check valve in the inlet, presumably to improve priming. 1952 doesn't seem to have a check valve/ball. It's a minor problem, but sometimes it can take 10-15 seconds (or longer if its cold) before it starts to pump, usually on a fresh startup. May be a combination of wear and oil viscosity. With thicker oil, it was nearly impossible to get it to prime.
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dfwallis
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Posted: 22 hours 9 minutes ago at 5:44pm |
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That's roughly what it has in it (821Xl compliant). That's roughly 10W30 and it has trouble priming sometimes.
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Posted: 21 hours 48 minutes ago at 6:05pm |
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The tractor is in Indiana. It will have a relatively easy life for the foreseeable future. It may on occasion do some plowing/discing. My brother is eyeing it for his garden. It may be used for some brush hogging if I get the smaller one working, but mostly finish mowing.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 8 hours 2 minutes ago at 7:51am |
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The CA system is very very BASIC... ISO 32, 46, or 68 normally works fine.. If YOUR tractor specifically has trouble priming and you know the 46 has an easier time, then that is totally acceptable... HYTRANS type oils are also commonly used, but they can be 30wt on some brands.. some are 20wt and some are 10w30 type viscosity.. You have to watch that if you normally have trouble with 30wt oils..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 8 hours 1 minutes ago at 7:52am |
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PER GOOGLE---
Here’s a handy chart to help you find the equivalent ISO grade for a given SAE weight:
This oil conversion chart is approximate. Note: ISO grades overlap with SAE weights in some cases. For instance, ISO 46 can replace both SAE 15W and 20W oils depending on the temperature. Edited by steve(ill) - 7 hours 58 minutes ago at 7:55am |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 6 hours 8 minutes ago at 9:45am |
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i use hydralic transmission oil in my C , and in all my allis tractors i use the brands dr. allis listed or ones with the same qualitys like mobile424
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Posted: 5 hours 9 minutes ago at 10:44am |
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Yup, I saw that.
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Posted: 5 hours 7 minutes ago at 10:46am |
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That's what I have in it now and it isn't quite behaving as I'd like. Once it primes, it's fine. I know that it has trouble priming with thicker oil. I just don't want to run something that's too thin.
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