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AndrewJS 
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 3:40pm |
Hi all, I have been having a problem with my 1954 CA lately where the oil line (actually two separate lines converging into a T) going into the top of the governor keeps popping out when I adjust the throttle. I'm not sure if the fitting on the end of the line is bad, or if I am missing a part. Is there supposed to be an o-ring or something on the end? I have included a picture -- you can see the whole governor is wet as this was taken after I popped the line back in after it had been leaking for a bit. Any help would be greatly appreciated!  |
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Jim.ME
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 4:36pm |
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 4:57pm |
pretty sure it'd be a 'compression' style fitting.Maybe the brass insert is missing ??
kinda curious about the blue 'undercolor'...
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 7:38pm |
 jaybmiller wrote:
pretty sure it'd be a 'compression' style fitting.Maybe the brass insert is missing ??
kinda curious about the blue 'undercolor'...
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Is it the famous missing blue, from someone's ford emblem? 
Anyway as Jay said, might be a worn out, cracked, or missing brass ferrule...
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Jim.ME
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 8:01pm |
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Are you saying one of the small lines is popping off or the metal stand pipe, below the tee, the linkage pivots on is popping out of the housing? I am thinking it sounds like you are talking about the stand pipe coming out of the housing.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 8:07pm |
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The top nut? Maybe an optical illusion but that nut looks like it is cracked. If so, a new nut and ferrule are needed and maybe trim back the line just past old ferrule. Also check threads on the body of the fitting
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 8:48pm |
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The first thing you might want to look at is to see if the T is turning as you move the throttle lever. If that happens that can explain why oil is leaking - the moving of the T can wreck the ferule on the line that comes out of the side. I had that same problem on my D15 several years ago. The T and governor linkage were rusted together. Took everything apart, cleaned up, reassembled and has not had a problem since.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2022 at 11:09pm |
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Yeah, I mean the standpipe coming out of the housing. Will look to see if I can find a replacement ferrule.
I am also curious now that another poster mentioned it, is the blue not normal for allis tractors? I thought it was a primer or undercoat for the orange. It's everywhere on this tractor.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 4:55am |
Blue is definitely not normal primer. AC used a yellow primer on motor and castings. Also, look at the blue overspray on the radiator, from the factory, there would only be black paint, on the radiator...
Edited by DiyDave - 03 Jan 2022 at 6:06am
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 5:56am |
The standpipe (actually called pivot pin in the parts book) is supposed to be a pressed in fit in the housing as far as I know. No ferrule or threads at the housing end, at least on the one that came out on me. You can try removing the linkage and oil lines. Remove the pipe/pin and with a sharp prick punch make a number of punch dimples in the area that goes into the housing. Clean/degrease that area on the pipe/pin and the hole in the housing. Reinstall the pipe/pin using some Loctite bearing retainer or Loctite 660 Quick Metal on the dimpled surface of the pipe/pin and tap it into the hole. Let it cure before reassembling the linkage and lines.
I have done this before, but someone may be along with a better method.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 8:04am |
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I have rebuilt several covers with this problem and I have a few for sale if interested. It has a new pivot shaft that is threaded into the cover. lselkriver@gmail.com
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 10:23am |
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Someone probably painted it that color for a parade or something. In 1976 some locals got drunk and painted their tractors for the bicentennial parade. A red John Deere, white Farmall, and the blue Allis Chalmers WD that we ended up owning about 15 years later. And no, we didn’t re-paint the WD. We changed the oil, and sent it to the field to rake hay.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2022 at 6:36pm |
Also could be a municipality/gov't/golf course's colors... Lots can happen in 60-70 years...
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