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captaindana 
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 Topic: CA gas tank. FOUND A TANK. THANKS TO ALL
Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 12:30pm |
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OK so after several days of fiddling with his tank trying to clean it filling it with 5/16 inch nuts (10 pounds of them )strapping them on my D 15 series 2 rear tire while I plow snow for two days then clean it out with every step of POR 15 which by the way was 150 bucks plus for all of the different chemicals. I left to dry for 3 1/2 days and I just looked in there after carrying it back up to the shop and the whole inside membrane of POR 15 let go and it’s just flopping around in there…a complete failure, obviously pretty much everything went wrong! Ok I’m going to strap it now to my cement mixer and give it another shot! Pffftttt…..
Edited by captaindana - 22 Dec 2022 at 7:28pm
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sparky
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Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 1:26pm |
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I take my tanks to my radiator man and he boils them out and glass coats the inside IF it needs coated. He’s done several tanks for me and had zero problems with them. Good luck.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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Larry in NC
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Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 4:01pm |
I agree with the comment from Sparky. Radiator shop cleaning, testing and repair is a good option. Only problem is radiator shops are closing and there is not one left in our area that will clean a gas tank.
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captaindana
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Posted: 18 Dec 2022 at 4:35pm |
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Wow I never thought of that thanks guys!
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 7:12am |
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The B,C,CA tanks fit in my blasting cabinet. The inside bottom gets blasted. Sometimes I end up with more then the factory holes, but I am always pleased when it works and the tractor runs without carb problems.
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 3:00pm |
I have used "Works" toilet cleaner to remove the rust, but because it is hydrochloric acid, it will flash rust if you don't passivate it immediately. I get it thoroughly rinsed out and then that is where the phosphoric acid comes in. I have used Klean Strip Prep and Etch. It can be diluted. The phosphoric acid leaves behind a layer of phosphoric oxide that blocks rust. It is a thin and fragile coat, but in a gas tank, it works pretty well. It converts the steel to the phosphoric oxide. There is no layer to peal off. I then keep the tank full as much as possible.
Evapo rust would probably be better than the Works and would not etch the surface as much, but I have not tried that.
Keep in mind, the tank has to be solid to use the Works. If it isn't, you will end up with all kinds of pinholes.
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 4:46pm |
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Like Sparky,I take all of mine to the local radiator shop. I have never had a problem with any of them.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 5:02pm |
 DSeries4 wrote:
Like Sparky,I take all of mine to the local radiator shop. I have never had a problem with any of them.
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Do you coat them after they are cleaned?
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captaindana
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 5:16pm |
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Thanks y’all the only 2 radiator shops within 100 miles won’t touch it because of the new EPA rules they do not do gas tanks anymore
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 5:24pm |
WF owner wrote:
DSeries4 wrote:
Like Sparky,I take all of mine to the local radiator shop. I have never had a problem with any of them.
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Do you coat them after they are cleaned? |
The shop cleans them and them coats them. They use muriatic acid to clean the tank. If you do not get it lined after afterwards it will rust pretty quickly as the acid leaves the metal bare and unprotected. Once it is lined, you are set. All the metal is covered, so you will not have any rust issues.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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sparky
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Posted: 19 Dec 2022 at 5:42pm |
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X’s 2
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 8:18am |
X3! I don't get involved with acid and all that other crap. For what the Cap spent on POR15, I get my tanks boiled and coated at the Rad shop. Might be losing my Rad shop pretty soon though. I heard through the grapevine, my Rad guy is gonna retire. Dang it! Might havta' find another guy. And them Rad shops are closing up one by one! Better send my RC tank down before he shuts down!..... Steve@B&B
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 12:09pm |
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Well I finally found a shop that would attempt to fix my CA gas tank and their estimate is six to $800.
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sparky
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 12:21pm |
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Dang!! My last 2 tanks cost me $150 apiece. He may think a CA tank is the size of a Kenworth. Both tanks were serviced in the summer of 2020.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 5:02pm |
I never heard of any pricing like this. Our local shop, which closed last year charged $85 for the last tank I had cleaned and repaired a year ago. I did not have it sealed, that would have been extra cost.
Well I finally found a shop that would attempt to fix my CA gas tank and their estimate is six to $800.
Edited by Larry in NC - 20 Dec 2022 at 5:03pm
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 5:43pm |
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I'm sure someone here on the forum must have a good used one for much less money!
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 7:27pm |
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I’m about ready to saw/grind it in half lengthwise like just above the mid seam, make it like new and mig it back together.i
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 7:57pm |
   Since I bought this online never hearing it run I was anxious to hear what I have. Changed all oils filters HD coolant, plugs points condenser cap rotor wiring hoses belts, new temp gauge batt cables rebuilt carb etc. The dang gas tank remains to be fixed. Today I installed a champion gas tank from an old generator we had in the scrap metal pile. Wood, glue, screws, bolts and rubber padding installation. New gas lines, fittings and filter. She popped off quickly with her new ought battery cables and ran ok. I timed it by ear (for today) and took a ride in 25* 4pm conditions. Brakes, clutch, hand clutch, gear all seem perfect. Steering is as new no slop at all. Third gear perfect. All gears checked going downhill. The more it ran the better it ran. The old man collector Had really taken care of it and I don’t believe had hardly used it. That’s all for this evening news 😁 folks! Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy please! Dana
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Posted: 20 Dec 2022 at 10:15pm |
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When I did thetankonmy CA .I used a 5'piece of dog chai it's much easier than nuts to remove. I cleaned up and soldered the big bottom rust holes and coated with Kream use to get from a motor cycles shop. It'sat here step process.acid etch nuteraliz prime and coat. The last kitI bought from JC Whitney and it was around $25. Acts held up for 15 years and never pealed.its now a heavy cream color it was bright white when I did it.I just checked Amazon has the original Kreem fuel tank kit for $53.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 10:39am |
$600-$800!!!! Maybe the guy thought you were bringing him the fuel tank from your airplane! Holy moly! Need to find another Rad shop Cap! Like Sparky said, $100-$150 bucks should be the going price to do that tank that's the size of an overgrown Motorcycle tankl... Steve@B&B
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 4:54pm |
Cheap vinegar works according to this guy.. [URL= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzzeNdjPUS4][/URL]
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 5:17pm |
This guy tried a few products. [URL= https://youtu.be/Iu2TD3OUI3Q ][/URL]
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It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa,
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 7:14pm |
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Ok guys I called the Albany NY shop back today that quoted me 6-800 bucks yesterday to fix my tank the guy talk to this morning remember he says yeah that was my sister you talk to and I said you know it’s only 13 gallons he said you know the quotes going to be more like $14-$1600! I kid yallNOT! Unreal!🤔😂
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 7:16pm |
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14 to 1600 bucks!!?? Go buy another CA.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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Posted: 21 Dec 2022 at 8:39pm |
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Try gas tank renu. There is one in Albany, if that’s close. Did my CA, welded crack and lined for $200.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 2:41am |
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Tomwmn Albany NY Renu is exactly who I have been giver these quotes from!!!!
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Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 7:00am |
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Asking that kinda money is one of two things,the kids took over the business or they have absolutely no interest in doing your tank. There's people on here that probably have a tank or a good idea where you can find one.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 7:26pm |
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Thanks for all your help guys I found a good tank in NC . But I still want to recoup mine!
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Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 8:06pm |
Try north country auto radiator shop 518 -798-1788 Don’t know about tanks but do good with radiators
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Posted: 23 Dec 2022 at 5:06am |
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Thanks Mikez
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