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Wil M (NEIA) 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 7:38pm |
Do you suppose it would pull it? I used my CA to put my 3 bottom plow away today. Needed to clean the plow up and just couldn't resist taking a picture of it out in the field. Had to resist the urge to drop it in the ground. Figured I have broke enough things and created enough projects this weekend that I didn't need to attempt fate.
I had to use the CA because I finally ran my D17 out of LP while I was plowing, which I meant to do. The fill valve needs to be replaced on the tank. I was able to idle the 17 up to the shed and drop the plow and park the 17 outside of the shed out of the way so I could bleed the tank off and take the valve off. Now to just find a valve.
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DougS
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 7:39pm |
But of course. Just drop two of those three bottoms.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 7:56pm |
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Probably a good way to fry the hand clutch.....I tried plowing behind my Oliver rollover (about a 12" deep dead furrow) with my CA and 2-14 and POP! no more clutch....lesson learned.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:08pm |
When I asked my one of my distant neighbors about his CA, he said it wasn't for sale but proceeded to tell me all sorts of great stories about the tractor and then showed me his '69 Roadrunner. He said the CA would pull the two bottom pin hitch plow (probably 14s, I'm not sure) in third gear but it was much happier in second.
I wish he'd sell the tractor but it was his dad's. He has the plow, cultivators, and correct hitch to go with it but it hasn't run in years and he hasn't touched it. Oh well... I don't blame him for not wanting to sell it.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:21pm |
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It sure will if loaded right. Dennis A posted video of him plowing old sod with 3-14's on his CA. Dad used to plow cornstalks at about 1/2 throttle in 3rd gear with 2-14 pin hitch on the CA. If you run full throttle it threw the dirt too far. Like Eldon found out, you will find weak points in your tractor though.
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donslick72@gmail.com
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:25pm |
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A while back Dennis Anderson had a video of his "CA" pulling 3 14s. Sounded good. Don
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:26pm |
Some people think the B is a one plow tractor. This B has only one plow but 3 bottoms. 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 8:27pm |
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 7:21am |
 Wil M (NEIA) wrote:
Do you suppose it would pull it? I used my CA to put my 3 bottom plow away today. Needed to clean the plow up and just couldn't resist taking a picture of it out in the field. Had to resist the urge to drop it in the ground. Figured I have broke enough things and created enough projects this weekend that I didn't need to attempt fate.
I had to use the CA because I finally ran my D17 out of LP while I was plowing, which I meant to do. The fill valve needs to be replaced on the tank. I was able to idle the 17 up to the shed and drop the plow and park the 17 outside of the shed out of the way so I could bleed the tank off and take the valve off. Now to just find a valve.
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Wil, did you buy the valves already? If so what brand and part number? My 17 needs both the liquid and vapor valve replaced.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 11:45am |
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Nicely put Charlie. Wil, how long does it take to mount and unmount the cultivators? I haven't mounted mine yet but hope too before spring.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 2:23pm |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Some people think the B is a one plow tractor. This B has only one plow but 3 bottoms.
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I guess if your talking 8" bottoms, A B could pull that in certain soils. She isn't gonna pull that here by me.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 4:34pm |
Every so often a fellow dealer in Westminster, MD would hook a three bottom plow to a CA. If the ground was right you could pull it. However, we did not make a practice of it.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 6:31pm |
Rfdeere wrote:
I guess if your talking 8" bottoms, A B could pull that in certain soils. She isn't gonna pull that here by me. |
I think this is a factory photo though it looks like an English B. If it was a late model, it would have the same engine as the CA and could very easily pull 3-14's in light ground if properly set up and weighted. I saw a guy try to pull a 2-14 trailer plow with a C at a show once. All the Green and Red guys were having a good laugh. The plow wasn't lined up behind the tractor, the rear wheels were too far out, and he had no weight or fluid. It won't ever happen without setting the plow up right and to top it all off, this was in about 5 year old sod on a clay hill. Some just don't get it, it isn't all about power, but is about proper set-up.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 7:31pm |
donslick72@gmail.com wrote:
A while back Dennis Anderson had a video of his "CA" pulling 3 14s. Sounded good. Don |
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Wil M (NEIA)
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011 at 7:45pm |
TexasAllis wrote:
Wil M (NEIA) wrote:
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Wil, did you buy the valves already? If so what brand and part number? My 17 needs both the liquid and vapor valve replaced. |
Yes, I bought my valve today. I had to replace what I believe is the vapor fill valve. I just contacted the LP service guy that I know and told him what I needed and he was able to set me up. Sorry, don't know a part number or anything. He said something about it is a 3/4" standard pipe size fill valve. He dropped it off at work on his way home. Cost me $25 and some change.
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Wil M (NEIA)
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Posted: 15 Nov 2011 at 6:34pm |
Lance/SC wrote:
Nicely put Charlie. Wil, how long does it take to mount and unmount the cultivators? I haven't mounted mine yet but hope too before spring. |
Lance,
This was the first time I have put them on and taken them off. It took me most of a morning to put them on but I also had to make a run to town for bolts. Took maybe a half hour to take them off. Hardest part was installing the lift mechanisim on the center of the tractor. That is why it is still on there and will stay on there.....of course a 2nd set of hands would have made it a lot easier.
Wil
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 11:24am |
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Somewhat amateur question. Back several years ago when I started my CA restoration I picked up a set of "2 bottom CA plows" for it. Now that I've grown up a little and know a little better, I'm pretty sure I have a two bottom set for a WD. To measure how much of a "cut" it takes I just measure from the point straight over to the other edge correct? I think I have 2-16's. Not sure if it will pull them or not. I guess I'll find out in spring.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011 at 4:58pm |
Reeseholler wrote:
Somewhat amateur question. Back several years ago when I started my CA restoration I picked up a set of "2 bottom CA plows" for it. Now that I've grown up a little and know a little better, I'm pretty sure I have a two bottom set for a WD. To measure how much of a "cut" it takes I just measure from the point straight over to the other edge correct? I think I have 2-16's. Not sure if it will pull them or not. I guess I'll find out in spring.
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You can also measure the frame as long as you use the similar frame member. Unless you have gumbo or really tuff clay, I don't think you will have a problem pulling 2-16's as long as the plow is set up right.
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Wil M (NEIA)
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Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 6:58pm |
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Well it will pull it no problem:-). Put the plow back on the CA today to move it out of the building so I could hook it back up to the D17 and I couldn't resist any longer and went out and tried plowing. The CA pulled it just fine but the front end sure liked to dance in the air. After about the 3rd time of getting the front end 2 feet or more off the ground for to long of an extended period of time I decided I better quit...
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Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 7:35pm |
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Now all you need are 3 or 4 suitcase weights up front. LOL I remember watching Dad plow the south west corner of "the other place" when I was a kid. There is a decent sized clay knob along the road. When he went up that last stretch next to the road the front came up. I bet he went 40 or 50 yards till he topped the hill before it came back down real gently like. I had seen the neighbor just north go 120 yards up hill with the front off the ground plowing with his D17. I guess that's the same field his Dad died in when the JD A planting tractor went over backwards and pinned him to the ground and planter. I guess it is good to keep at least 3 wheels on the ground most of the time.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 9:46pm |
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Went and measured them. I got 12" going across. I guess the bottoms are just high and that makes them look big. We'll find out in the spring how she does. I have the whole set of weights for it. Wheel and frame. It's pin hitch not snap coupler.
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