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desertjoe 
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 9:30am |
OK,,I am thinkin bout modifyin the frame on an old single axle camping trailer to haul my new to me Polaris ATV so I don't have to use the heavy dual axle trailer. The dropped axle is now settin just about center on the frame but wheels come up in the frame and I want to stretch the axle to where the tires are outside the frame for more room on the trailer bed. Any suggestions,,?? And,,,and,,,I don't need any blowtorch ideas,,,,,, thank you very much 
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 10:31am |
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Is it still a round tube axle?
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john(MI)
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 11:28am |
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Remove the axle. Using a larger pipe cutter, cut the axle in half at the center. Cut a piece of pipe the length needed. Using a welder connect the pieces together. The pipe cutter cuts an angular cut into the metal. This helps make for a stronger weld. My friend used to do this often times when he was making trailers and needed to extend the axle.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 12:46pm |
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I cut the axle in the center with a sawzal.... then got a pipe where the ID was the size of the axle OD.. slid the axle halves in about 6 inches and socket welded to the pipe... as wide as you want.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 1:32pm |
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I REALLY like Steve's idea. That'll be much much much stronger than a butt weld.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 1:41pm |
To extend an axle, I also add an inner 'sleeve' of pipe, 2-3x the length of the additonal steel. I make sure it's all well clamped down and squre then weld....walk away until totally cooled down. Rechecked dimensions ,then add 2nd layer of weld. For a single axle trailer ,the axle should be 60% from the front of the 'bed'. Say the trailer's bed/floor/deck is 10 feet long, axle needs to be 6' from the front of the bed, Do NOT include the tongue length. I've made 25+ trailers this way and everyone loves how they 'pull down the road'. When welding spring mounts to the frame, again, measure a zillion times, get it SQUARE and true THEN weld
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 10:00pm |
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I cut the axle in the center with a sawzal.... then got a pipe where the ID was the size of the axle OD.. slid the axle halves in about 6 inches and socket welded to the pipe... as wide as you want. |
I did the same thing. Slid the outer tube over the axle about 18" on each end, then pug welded. Made the plug welds work to my advantage to set the toe-in. That was on my tandem axle gooseneck. On smaller single axle trailer with square tube slid a piece of tube over that went from hub to hub.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 12:23am |
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go to TSC and buy the size you need.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 5:39am |
gee Shameless, where's the fun in that ??? and some of us aren't rollin in dough from the huge profits in farming that everyone talks about.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 5:40am |
If it's a trailer that isn't going to be towed a lot of miles, shortening the axle is fine. If it's going to get a lot of miles, you would do better buying an axle that is properly aligned.
New axles aren't as expensive as you might think. I recently bought a new 7000 lb. axle (beam only, no springs, brakes, bearings or hubs) for my fifth wheel for about $230 delivered to my door. The old axle was out of alignment enough that it couldn't be aligned and it was wearing tires badly.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 7:54am |
the 'trick' to modifying an axle is to have it FIRMLY jigged,weld, then walk away until 100% room temperature. That could take 1-2 hrs... THEN measure it and it should be fine. I've done this dozens of times, never had a bad one. Jay
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 9:44am |
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I've adjusted a few axles by cutting and slipping a tube over then welding. Biggest thing is to double check the alignment before welding. Just bought a new drop axle for my little trailer for under $200. Was out of alignment from factory. Had to cut the spindle loose and rotate a little then reweld.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2020 at 2:59am |
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is this th trailer you are gonna use to haul the chevy allis?
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