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rafathegafa11 
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 5:41pm |
Hi folks,
Wanted too introduce myself, names Rory. Thought I would join up and have a look around. My interest in Allis Chalmers stems from my dads collection. We have four tractors in total, a 'B' 'C' 'D272' and an 'ED40' we also have a Rotobaler and a conventional AC baler, not sure of the model number off hand!
Anyway hope you fellas dont object to seeing some of the British AC's !!
I'll try and get some pictures of the other tractors when i get a chance!
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 5:48pm |
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Are you kidding, those are the ones, we don't get to see very often, post away fellow AC brother, and welcome!!!
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JohnCinMd
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:00pm |
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Welcome Rory! Are you required to have the license plate on the front of the tractor when you take it on the road?
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BrettPhillips
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:05pm |
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Glad to have you! I'm partial to the D272, although they are not common on this side of the pond.
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R.W
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:25pm |
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Welcome!!!
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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jhid
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:26pm |
 JohnCinMd wrote:
Welcome Rory! Are you required to have the license plate on the front of the tractor when you take it on the road? |
From what I've heard on other wedsites they need that and a tractor licence to be on the road
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red and green are nice for christmas, but orange is all year round
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Bill Long
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Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:34pm |
Welcome!! Delighted to have a fellow Allis Chalmers man from "across the pond" Look forward to seeing even more pictures. Especially my favorate, the B, and the English type tractors. Good Luck! Bill Long
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beeman
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Posted: 19 Jun 2011 at 10:36pm |
Welcome Friend!! I made a mistake and sold my ED 40 years ago,, but my little B looks good. PS.. I got a lead on another ED 40 that needs a bit of care. Who knows? Might be asking you for advice soon!! Post pictures anytime,we love em.
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Jim Lindemood
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 7:33am |
Welcome -- the more the merrier. Also more opportunity to learn, get advice, etc.
Nice looking tractor. The baler looks very much like my 442 baler. Don't know for sure what yours is, or if that model was available over there, but sure looks like mine --- mine works really well.
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OrangeKiwi(NZ)
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 6:03pm |
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Hi Rory, I would say your baler is the model 200, first made by the Jones Baler Co. of Mold, Wales. Allis Chalmers bought out Jones around 1960 and marketed the baler as their own. There was also models 302 and 303. After AC's demise worldwide, the Jones company re-bought the baler division. A feature of the model 200 was the recessed twine grooves. It was claimed that twine didn't catch on mechanical loaders. It was murder on your fingers if you were handling the bales by hand.
I notice your ED40 doesn't have the extended battery compartment. I assume it has a smaller battery ? What is the starting like ?
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rafathegafa11
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 6:14pm |
OrangeKiwi(NZ) wrote:
Hi Rory, I would say your baler is the model 200, first made by the Jones Baler Co. of Mold, Wales. Allis Chalmers bought out Jones around 1960 and marketed the baler as their own. There was also models 302 and 303. After AC's demise worldwide, the Jones company re-bought the baler division. A feature of the model 200 was the recessed twine grooves. It was claimed that twine didn't catch on mechanical loaders. It was murder on your fingers if you were handling the bales by hand.
I notice your ED40 doesn't have the extended battery compartment. I assume it has a smaller battery ? What is the starting like ? |
Thanks for the reply about the baler! My dad said that this baler was basically a Jones! The battery is beside the seat, i'll post some more pictures if i get a chance! The ED40 is an absolute pig to start at times, you have to heat her for ages! I have heard this is a common problem with these engines tho!
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rafathegafa11
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 6:20pm |
beeman wrote:
Welcome Friend!! I made a mistake and sold my ED 40 years ago,, but my little B looks good. PS.. I got a lead on another ED 40 that needs a bit of care. Who knows? Might be asking you for advice soon!! Post pictures anytime,we love em.
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I didnt know any ED40's made it out too the states, im sure they would be pretty rare in your neck of the woods!
Hope you manage to find another one, they are nice tractors!
Heres a video of my dad turning some hay with our one a couple of weeks ago!
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OrangeKiwi(NZ)
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 6:38pm |
Hard to start. Nothing new there then. The same Standard engine was used in the early Fergie 35's and they had the same problem. I'll post a photo of a New Zealand ED40 that was for sale. In the photo you can see the extended battery compartment on the left side. All the NZ ED40's seem to have this feature. Also the colour scheme seems to be standard for all NZ tractors. We have a cream hood, cream fenders and cream radiator surround, unlike yours. Maybe it was an export feature ?
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rafathegafa11
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 6:45pm |
OrangeKiwi(NZ) wrote:
Hard to start. Nothing new there then. The same Standard engine was used in the early Fergie 35's and they had the same problem. I'll post a photo of a New Zealand ED40 that was for sale. In the photo you can see the extended battery compartment on the left side. All the NZ ED40's seem to have this feature. Also the colour scheme seems to be standard for all NZ tractors. We have a cream hood, cream fenders and cream radiator surround, unlike yours. Maybe it was an export feature ?
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Thanks for the picture! Never heard of the different colours for the export tractors, would look really nice I think! My dad seems to think the ones with the extended battery boxes where later ED40's. Ive seen both ones like ours and ones like in your photograph, ive been trying to find somewhere that would have the serial number records so i can find out the year of our tractor!
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joegrgraham
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 3:11pm |
Hi Rory, I've got a 1965 ED40 Depth-o-matic. Your dad is right about the under bonnet battery, when the model was upgraded to the Depth-o-matic hydraulics (63/64) the engine Hp was raised to 42hp and the battery was moved under the bonnet. I believe about 400 were shipped to the States. As for your starting issues, I put in new heater plugs and had the injectors reconditioned, plus a good battery, and now 15-20 seconds of heat and away she goes (and that's living outside). I've never been able to find a list of serial numbers. All the best, Joe The early Fergie 35's were pigs to start because they only had one little heater plug in the inlet manifold, Allis had the sense to drill the head out so each cylinder had a plug!
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beeman
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 7:27pm |
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My ED40 was tough to start and I hated using starting fluid on it. An old timer showed me how to use a quart size plastic oil bottle with just a couple of oz. of gas {petrol to my friends] . Just squeeze the bottle a few times while holding it near the air intake while cranking . Fires right up without the horrible rattle and knock of starting fluid. Carried the bottle in the tool box. My tractor had the battery bump too and was solid orange with a white grill. The lift was weak when I bought it used. So I rebuilt it and opened up the groove on the piston to accept a more modern type of ring /seal. Worked great. Cheap on fuel too.
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