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    Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 2:30am
A family is selling the AC collection, around 27 AC's, everything from garden tractors to a D21.  Richard seems to have liked to start projects but not necessarily finish them.  I know a few others like that, including me.  Anyway, April 17th Severance, Colorado. I plan to be there and not have to spend a whole lot of money on a couple things.

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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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I noticed they have a D15 and D19 diesel.
1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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Hey John,

I texted you the other day, I wondered if you were going.  I am planning to make it, may even bring some money!  Let's meet up, if you want, make sure I don't bid on what you want


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnColo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 1:34pm
Orange, My phone has a problem with text's and sometimes doesn't ring either.  I'll PM you another number to see if that's the one you have.
I hope to bring home one tractor but who knows how much those things will bring.
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I noticed that the Gleaner is listed as an F which is a mistake.  It is a rare 1954 Gleaner T 
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The combine is in pretty sad shape and might only bring scrap price.  I'm not really looking for another project combine but I'll not let it go too cheap.
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Unless Anthony wants it....
I'll PM you.
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Beware selling so many of the same common model tractor at the same time. There is only so much interest in these tractors. Too few prospective buyers for many common model units results in low bids after the first few sell and it rapidly worsens for seller(s) on subsequent units.


Here is an example.

https://www.proxibid.com/Leaman-Auctions/Cooper-AC-Collection-Consignments/event-catalog/168685?srch=&srchloc=true&ipp=100&sort=0
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Hopefully, between Orange Blood and I, we will be able to keep track of the prices on a lot of the stuff.  Weather forecast is getting worse the closer to Saturday we get, now high 30s with rain or snow in the morning.  Doesn't always have a big effect of prices but then again, most of the stuff is collector equipment, not that much that will go out to the field and work.  KMAG may be correct, of course I suspect the D21 will bring good money and maybe the D15 diesel and D19 diesel.  Only time will tell, like 60 hours from now.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Luke R. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 5:45am
HMMMm a D21. Maybe Ill have to get a number. Ive got a few spare parts laying around. I know some people in that area!! Time to stimulate the economy!!

Edited by Luke R. - 15 Apr 2021 at 5:45am
4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F
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I would think there is a good chance that the D21 will sell out of the area.  Anyone want to predict some prices on anything?
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Originally posted by KMAG KMAG wrote:

Beware selling so many of the same common model tractor at the same time. There is only so much interest in these tractors. Too few prospective buyers for many common model units results in low bids after the first few sell and it rapidly worsens for seller(s) on subsequent units.


Here is an example.

https://www.proxibid.com/Leaman-Auctions/Cooper-AC-Collection-Consignments/event-catalog/168685?srch=&srchloc=true&ipp=100&sort=0

I looked through those sale prices, and I don't see anything crazy low, now I know the NE area does pull in higher prices than the midwest.  I personally thought those prices were about right to a tad higher than what I see them go for, so maybe they are a bit low for PA.  I know some people think all this old stuff should be worth high money, but that is the beauty of an auction, it sets the real price.  Yes, I know there are fluke auctions, but they average out.

I guess we will see what happens here in CO this Saturday.  This isn't a HUGE collection by any means, but it has some nice pieces, and there aren't generally all that many Orange collectors in CO, bad weather typically raises prices as it brings money in from the field, but will it in this case.  One thing that does bring prices down, is taking the valuable hoods and tanks of the tractors to sell them separate, I hate that practice, but in this case I don't think it was intentional.  We will see!!!Confused


Edited by Orange Blood - 15 Apr 2021 at 5:50pm
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HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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Richard had a habit of starting lots of projects but not finishing them.  I understand he had all the decal kits for the painted tractors but never got around to putting them on.  A relative even offered to help him do it and it didn't happen.  He was usually the guy we all bid against, will be strange bidding on stuff we tried to buy years ago but got outbid.
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"I looked through those sale prices, and I don't see anything crazy low..."


Restored CA wfe $1100. Running CA nfe with Woods L59 mower and decent tires $550.
The C tractors were $300-500-photos no longer in link.
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Here are the results I recorded, should be fairly accurate, but I may have missed something here or there, as I was bidding and writing at times, and chasing others down.

ONLY ALLIS or GLEANER items listed, everything else was not recorded (by me anyway)

1939 B, NOS Rears, Loose = $700

1940 B Low Rider, Deep but checked rears, Loose = $1050

1940 B, One Newer Rear, belly sickle mower, Loose = $900

??yr  G, Older Decent Rears, full cultivator, Loose = $ 3500

1940 C, Cast Valve Cover, NOS checked rears, Stuck = $250

1945 C, NOS Checked Rears, Singe Front, Missing Drawbar, Stuck = $400

1949 C, Belly mount sickle mower, Loose = $600

1951 CA, New Rears, Loose = $700

1952 CA, Older Rears, No Drawbar, No Snap Coupler bell, Stuck = $350

1967 D10, NOS Rears, Loose = $3800

1961 D12, NOS Rears, Loose = $ 2000

1958 D14, New Rears, water/rust on the dipstick, Loose = $800

??yr D15 Diesel, Good Rubber, Loose = $3300 (Family buy back, ran at end of sale)

1962 D17 Diesel, Cracked block, good rubber, no hitch, Loose = $675

1959 D17, Older Fair Rears, Snap Coupler adapter, Stuck = $ 400

1958 D17, Older Fair Rears, Swinging Drawbar, Fenders off but went with, Stuck = $800

1959 D17LP, Older checked Rears, Loose = $600

1962 D19 Diesel, Checked Rears, Factory 3-point, P/S $1400

1968 D21, Rotting Rice 32” Rears, Broke upper link lift housing, Welded front end, Loose = $7750

??yr KO Crawler, Stuck = $1700

??yr M Crawler, parts machine, missing head, etc. = $275

??yr MW Crawler, May have been just an “M”, Loose = $1300

1939 RC, NOS Rears, Mounted Buzz Saw, Loose = $1100

1936 WC = $450

1945 WC = ?? missed, or wasn’t at the auction

??yr WC High Crop, NOS rears, Loose = $1000

1957 WD45, Fair Rubber, Shift tower problem, Loose = $700

??yr WF, Older Fair Rubber,  Loose = $1900

??yr Model D Road Grader, Lots of welds on front half, “Steering Reversed” (turn Left to go Right, etc) Loose = $2550

??yr Gleaner “T” Combine, Not an “F” as on the sale bill, $3100

180 Diesel Part tractor, split, rear half nearly completely disassembled, no axles, no rear wheels, Loose = $550

WD rear half of drive train only, = $140

B missing wheels, front bolster, hear, mostly block, torque tube, rear, and internals = $110

 

Roto Baler White Top, tire shot, otherwise very nice, hardly any wear, = $2550 (family buy back)

Rear mount possibly #7 snap coupler sickle mower, = $150

Post Hole Digger, seized gearbox, $70

Sickle mower belly mount, missing parts, likely off a WC, = $25

Mounted two bottom plow, Left and Right off B or C, $100  (Family Buy Back)

Sickle Mower, possible an 80R misting mounts, and some drive line parts, = $40

2-Row D-Series mid mount cultivator, some mount parts, rear toolbar, one bent gang, = $60

1-Row Corn Chopper, tires shot, missing rear door, bent drive line shield, = $275

3-bottonw Snap Coupler plow, = $ sorry missed this one, but went high

PTO rake, only one piece of cast cracked that I saw, so REALLY good shape missing a bearing, bent bat, = $150

2-bottom rollover snap coupler plow, one moldboard broken (left side if I remember correctly) = $600

Blade 3-point 6’ foot, lots of welds, some deep pitted rust on one link, screws looked good, but stuck = $225

Snap coupler, ripper and ditching wing, = $170

Allcrop Combine, didn’t see the size, rough, but mostly complete, = $450

B112 lawn tractor = $60

7xx hydro lawn tractor = =$70

AC or Simplicity lawn cart $30

JohnColo was there and he may have a correction or two, and fill in some of my gaps.

All in all it was a great sale, put on by a good auction house, the family was present, and were very helpful, and very willing to share information.  Very impressive collection!!!
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Originally posted by KMAG KMAG wrote:

"I looked through those sale prices, and I don't see anything crazy low..."


Restored CA wfe $1100. Running CA nfe with Woods L59 mower and decent tires $550.
The C tractors were $300-500-photos no longer in link.

I guess our versions of crazy low are different, except for the CA with the mower, the rest seem normal for what I see selling.
Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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I'm glad Orange Blood was there keeping track of prices, I lost track after the first 10 or 15 tractors as was talking to people and bidding, etc.  It was good to see Orange again and to meet his dad.  I got two, the D12 and the WF.  Hauled the chopper to my place for the new owner, btw, only one tire is bad.  Took us a half an hour to get it on the truck, only fell off twice, (just kidding).  Orange is taking 4 tractors back to Nebraska but might have to get an export permit for the one he didn't haul, don't have enough of that model in Colorado...  There were a couple of really crazy prices in the sale, an old steel wheel Oliver side delivery hay rake, in good shape, but old, $1,100!  Also the farm trucks brought big money, the 55 Chevy sold for $5,000 I believe, the Fords went for anywhere from $600 to $4,000.  I just watched an auction in New Weston, Ohio on Youtube tonight, it was yesterday also, had a bunch of nice looking AC tractors and equipment.  Prices were a lot higher but most ran and had good tires, etc.  At this point I may have the most AC tractors in Colorado with 32.  Thinking I might have a sale in 10 years, it will take that long to get them all restored! 
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Some more thoughts;  The Model T combine sold to a friend of mine in the Longs Peak Tractor club, he's an IH guy but has a few AC's. 
The All Crop combine was a 60" and in looking at it after the sale, other then needing canvas's and a few minor repairs, it was in very good shape inside.  All the cylinder bars had the rubber on them and the wood wasn't worn much. 
The MM U tractor brought $1,000 which was more then I thought it would bring, don't know if it was on the sale bill, owned by a shirt sleeve family member, came from about 2 miles from my place where I got my engine powered All Crop, 15 years ago. 
I kind of wish I would have kept bidding on the D19, but didn't know the history on it.
Ted J, Orange Blood got a lot of the weights, we weren't sure which one you wanted, you might get in touch with him, I can bring it back to Hutch for you.



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Originally posted by JohnColo JohnColo wrote:

....... Took us a half an hour to get it on the truck, only fell off twice, (just kidding). .......

Gives it character!! WinkLOL

It was good to see you again also John, it has been too long.

Ted, John did mention you were looking for some weights, but I didn't understand or didn't hear we may be buying them for you, I didn't buy them with the intent to sell, but which one did you need maybe we can work something out?
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