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    Posted: 19 May 2015 at 11:24am
 I'm looking for suggestions for a USED baler that makes big round bales that I can use behind my 190 gas tractor (76 hp @ PTO). I'll be putting up close to 100 bales this year. I'm looking for something on the lower end of the price range. Maybe a Massey 1560 or Vermeer 605f?? Maybe not??  I have seen mixed (mostly bad) reviews about the Deere 510.
Any suggestions??  Do you know of a good one for sale?? 
 



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It seems to me that most of those balers specify a 100+ HP tractor. I could be wrong. No doubt you'd want a smaller capacity big baler.
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I put my 660 new Holland behind my one ninety gas for a short time, and it was definitely too much baler for the tractor. I would imagine that any 5 X 6 baler would pull equally as hard, so I would say that you will have to go to like a 4 X 5 or smaller baler. Guess if you weren't in a hurry, didn't have the bale density too tight, and had all flat ground, then you could probably do it. Darrel
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We ran a 605 F behind a 190xt Diesel for years didn't have any problems, if your ground is flat, and no more than 100 bales a year, I would just plan on it.  I know the gasser may not lug as well, so you could have issues in non ideal conditions, but I would think you should be fine.
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Dad pulled a 1500 Gehl for years with his 190XT gasser with no problems. He custom baled thousands of bales with it. A 1500 I think is similar in size to a 605F.
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There is a huge difference between a one ninety gas, and an XT diesel. The same 660 new Holland that my one ninety gas struggled with, my XT diesel toys with. Darrel
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Originally posted by darrel in ND darrel in ND wrote:

There is a huge difference between a one ninety gas, and an XT diesel. The same 660 new Holland that my one ninety gas struggled with, my XT diesel toys with. Darrel


About 13 horsepower I think.
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Thanks for the replies guys!  Sounds like a Gehl 1500A or a Ford 552 (same thing only blue) would be my best choice.

Has anyone here had experience with a Hesston 5545 ?  Would that be a good one for my 190?  It's a 4x5 baler.


 If anyone knows of one for sale, please let me know.Smile





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tractor house has 2 1500a  for sale  at ag land implement  new hampton ia. $900 ea. also a 1500 for sale in arkansas for $2500.
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albion equipment in ill has a 1500 for $1500. ph 618-445-2393
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I have an xt diesel and purchased a Hesston 560 on Big Iron a little over a year ago for 900. (yeah I know not that many can be had that cheap) but the nicest thing is the bale kicker (no backing up required when dumping a bale). There are quite a few 560/565 or case 8460/8465 balers that sell on Big Iron for a cheap price. As a matter of fact there is one going off tomorrow that looks nice but sits in Nebraska.
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I pulled a Vermeer 605C for twenty years with a 706 IH gas, I thought it was about a perfect match, about same hp as your 190 and I did 600 or 700 bales a year.
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We have ran a New Idea 484 4x5 round baler behind our 190 XT3 diesel. It mostly played with it but a gas may have been a different story. our 484 has been a good baler.
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I use a 5X5 Hesston behind the XT gas at one of my hay fields.
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Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

I pulled a Vermeer 605C for twenty years with a 706 IH gas, I thought it was about a perfect match, about same hp as your 190 and I did 600 or 700 bales a year.


We ran a 605C behind a 706 IH diesel as well and later a 605H baler. Ran both balers just fine.
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We use a JD 385 that makes 4x5 bales.  We have pulled it behind a 175 diesel, 6060, and 6070.  No issues with any of them.
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Originally posted by Brian-KS Brian-KS wrote:


Originally posted by darrel in ND darrel in ND wrote:

There is a huge difference between a one ninety gas, and an XT diesel. The same 660 new Holland that my one ninety gas struggled with, my XT diesel toys with. Darrel


About 13 horsepower I think.


Probably is 13 HP on paper, but in actuality, the difference between a non-XT gas, and an XT diesel is quite a bit more. Darrel
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My series 4 D17 diesel turns out around 70 hp. it runs a NH 851 round baler well. If you can find 1 with new chains they will serve you well. They do not make a good looking bale.
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Thanks for all of the information and recommendations!  The search begins Smile
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Should have watched that one of big iron today was a Hesston 565a with new belts last year, thing shined like a shed kept baler. Only went for 1450.
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You should be fine. My neighbor runs a 180 diesel on a 4x5 NH 648. Runs it pretty well too. The only reason though is because his 6080 blew an engine and is in the shop.
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I used to custom bale with a 180 diesel and a Vermeer 605 baler.
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