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OhKen ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Location: Ohio Points: 242 |
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Put new bearings in the chopper . While we were there , we replaced the knives that had already been turned once and turned the ones that had not been turned . What made me scratch my head tho was the uneven number of knives . 2 rows had 8 knives and 1 row had 9 . How does that balance ? I assume on one end or the other , there is a counterweight to balance the odd knife . Can anybody shed light on how they balanced with that odd number ?
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Lonn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29817 |
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You replace the knives in sets of 3 to keep it in balance. If you don't, you will shake it apart. I have never counted the knives on my L2 but the chopper was shook up pretty good and vibrated bad. I welded and reinforced and when I had a bad knife I replaced 3 knives as they went around no matter if the other knives looked good or not.... they have to be replaced in sets of 3....... smoothed it right out.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8645 |
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Don't know what's going on there but should be 3 at every position.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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If you replaced "some" of the knives with new and just "turned" others, the difference in weight of the knives alone will throw it out of balance I would think?? We replaced in sets of 3 also as Lonn said.
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OhKen ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Location: Ohio Points: 242 |
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Guys your missing or I'm á not doing a good job of explaining my point . Choppers have 3 rows of knives . That is why you always replace 1 in each row to keep it in balance. Knives always come in bags of 3 . Have replaced knives in L and F and never ran into this before . This chopper and I assume all M's are this way , It has 2 rows with 8 knives and 1 row with 9 knives . How did they get the chopper to balance with I row with an extra knife ? The chopper is balanced it runs smooth as silk . Dr Allis could you enlighten me ?
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wekracer ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Location: Tebbetts, MO Points: 1590 |
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I’ve never been around an M but I know The F and Ls have the same number on each row
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21967 |
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Haven't done any chopper work in 20+ yrs. It is what it is. If it runs smooooooth no worries.
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MACK ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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I think the two rows with 8 have some weights in them. MACK
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8645 |
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Well I'm confused. Parts book says use 9 sets of 3 to do complete replacement. Straight M series. First design M2 says use 11 sets....second design just says 3 hammers per set. Don't say how many sets to use.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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I looked up his hammer # on the parts book and I found that the hammers are sold in 3's, but the bushings that go in them are a 25 pack ??
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OhKen ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Location: Ohio Points: 242 |
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1 row has an extra knife . All chopper knives are sold in 3's that is the way it has always been . It takes 25 knives and you must buy 27 . I'm going to go with Dr Allis's advice . I don't know how the Gleaner engineers got it to balance , but they did . It runs smooth as silk . Somewhere in the rotor there is provision to counter balance the odd knife .
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MACK ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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Like I said earlier, two rows have weights in them. MACK
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