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Ted in NE-OH ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Austinburg OH Points: 1703 |
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For years I've had trouble with the valve cover gasket leaking on a B right behind the under hood muffler. It seems the heat softens the gasket cement and then the gasket bows in and leaks. I've tried to fix it a couple of times and same thing. Any tricks?
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mweiland ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 2012 Location: s.e. wisconsin Points: 33 |
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i do not know if its factory spec., or not , but i wipe down the gasket as dry as possible as well as the valve assemble and install with no sealant. i haven't ever had a problem. maybe a new gasket is in order..... perhaps a cleaner surface....just a thought
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Ted in NE-OH ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Austinburg OH Points: 1703 |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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Number one is (NO PAINT) under the gaskets. Valve cover gaskets do work well dry but I stick/glue them fast to the cover and never use anything on the head side. Seems if I don't glue them to the covers on Allis Chalmers that they bow in and leak. Some makes have metal tabs that hold the gasket in place on the covers. When a cover has the tabs I don't use anything on the gasket. Tightening them to tight will cave down the center to where the cover is not as tight on the head as you thought also can be a problem.
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Ted in NE-OH ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Austinburg OH Points: 1703 |
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Thanks guys I'll try that.
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j.w.freck ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: karnack texas Points: 1153 |
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why not add an aluminum heat shield between the exhaust and the rocker box.that should do it.....
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George Davenport ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Trenton NC Points: 127 |
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I had trouble with my B which had cork gaskets that would break down repeatedly due to heat. I finally replaced it with a neoprene gasket by FelPro. Part number was VS 3708 R. The gromlet bolt seals were included with gasket. (Also called rocker arm cover gasket). I think that would cure your problem.
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Steve in NJ ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11979 |
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I've always used 3M weatherstrip adhesive on the valve cover side to keep the gasket where it belongs. Wait over night for it to cure, and install the cover on a nice clean valve cover rail. I use Brakekleen on a rag to clean any oil off the valve cover rail before I install the cover w/new gasket. That process I use on all engines. Tractor, car or truck. Seems to work fine. I only had two failures all the years I've been doing it that way, and it turned out in both instances that the valve cover was whooped, and the gasket couldn't sit flush to seal correctly...
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SteveC(NS) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Location: Nova Scotia Points: 663 |
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I always try to "dress" the bolt holes in the valve cover back a bit, they can get a bit tired after a while.
Edited by SteveC(NS) - 16 Oct 2012 at 6:20pm |
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dkalsow ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2017 Location: Hudson, WI Points: 5 |
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I have to replace mine as well. Does anyone know the torque for the bolts on the valve cover? Thanks
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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Never torque the valve cover bolts! If you tighten to much and bend the hole down you will never stop the cover from leaking until you bend them back up. When you see the metal around the hole bend down slightly you have the maximum torque needed.
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dkalsow ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2017 Location: Hudson, WI Points: 5 |
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Sounds good - thanks
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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Use a good straight edge on the valve cover to make sure it's flat before you put it back together. Many have been torqued and aren't flat. A small hammer and a flat solid surface come in real handy for making it flat again.
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dkalsow ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 31 Jul 2017 Location: Hudson, WI Points: 5 |
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Good to know - thanks
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Bill Long ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Back in the day we used to seal the gasket to the cover first before installing it. If we did not we had an immediate leak. Used tools to hold in place till cement took well. Be certain it is well cleaned before installing. Usually did not have a problem. Listen closely to what is said above. It is great expert advice. Take good care of my favorite. Bill Long |
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