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Aaeon in NC 
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 Topic: Are D10 and D12 not popular?
Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 12:16pm |
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I have a 1963 D10 and on many different forums there is not a lot of information being shared about the D10 and D12. Are there not many around or do most collectors have few issues with them?
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 12:30pm |
 Aaeon in NC wrote:
I have a 1963 D10 and on many different forums there is not a lot of information being shared about the D10 and D12. Are there not many around or do most collectors have few issues with them? |
I have a D-10 series III with the 2 speed gear box. It will do 16+ mph. I like it, and take in on tractor drives. Being that it is narrow I can miss bumps that others have to hit. I would like to find a D-12 of about the same year.
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917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express"
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 12:55pm |
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D10 and D12 are both nice smaller tractors.. Problem is there were not many sold. I think 5- 10,000 of each... Compared to the "older" tractors like the B, WD, WD45 that sold 100,000 or more..... I think thats the difference... VOLUME sold .
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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jvin248
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 1:13pm |
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+1 production numbers were low and may not have had a lot of similar parts to prior models they replaced.
D10 shows around 9,000 production over it's total duration WD sold 130,000 units over a similar production span
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Marlyn nwia
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 1:46pm |
Location was an acute factor. They were too small for general livestock and grain farms. They were more compatible on vegetable, grass, and hobby farms. In Iowa they virtually do not exist. I have a D-12 III that I use as a lawn-garden tractor.
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 4:10pm |
Yeah, it's volume. At the time they were being built, the D10 and D12 were too small for the agricultural market in all but some truck farming work. At that point, the D17 was much bigger, but still limited in pulling moldboards, such that the D19 would soon not be enough.
Fast forward to today, and what do you see? LOADS of compact utility tractors. Imagine a D12 with 4wd, full live hydraulics, a strong front end loader, a svelte 3 point, and a comfortable cab...
Yep, the market is different now. People would buy a modern version of the Allis D12 in gobs, with just those few changes... but it wouldn't be farmers, as much as everyone ELSE!
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 5:56pm |
Series III 10's qnd 12's were live hyd and PTO 3-point while workable was the weak point. Problems included the start of the imported Asian diesels, of the late '70's. AC couldn't make an in-house small diesel for the price of Kubota. The replacement was the 5015-30 series built to AC spec by toyosha. Even the 5040's and up were either romanian or italian built tractors... 
Edited by DiyDave - 02 Feb 2022 at 5:58pm
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HudCo
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Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 11:10pm |
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i would trade my c in a haert beat for a d 10 i have only seen one d 10 in my whole life and that was a hundred yards away
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Charlie175
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Posted: 03 Feb 2022 at 5:51am |
They are reliable tractors that don't get a lot of hours these days. I enjoy mine but would pick a D15 over them for everyday use.
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Charlie
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Aaeon in NC
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Posted: 03 Feb 2022 at 6:03am |
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Thank you for the information. My gen 2 D10 is great for what I do with it, just getting into the hobby of antique tractors. Before I got it it was dragging a roadway and has needed only minor things to get it running well. It has the patina of its age, but has all but 1 piece of sheet metal that is in decent shape. Restoration to its former glory will take some time but not building a trailer queen either.
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