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    Posted: 13 May 2017 at 9:51pm
I am searching for a sales brochure for the Model W tractor. The WC was called the
W for a short time. The brochure shows a W tractor on rubber on the cover for
$825. I would like to have the pages of the email scanned in or i would buy a
copy of the brochure if it was for sale.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean(IA) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2017 at 9:52pm
My computer can't compose a sentence, I guess. I meant to say that the
copies could be posted on the forum or sent to me by PM.
Sorry about that.
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Never heard that. At first I was gonna tell you to flip it over, it's upside down, what you have is a crawler. Orrrrrrrrrrrr somebody put a radiator tag on upside down.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fred in Pa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 6:21am
You can not always go by pictures they used ,some where of tractor already being used for some time ,u never know was had been done to them .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 8:06am

I had ran across this main bearing set. It uses a journal that is smaller than 201 tractors would end up with.
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Would it be for the early WC's before they increased the size by 3/8"?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 11:13am
Originally posted by MNLonnie MNLonnie wrote:

Would it be for the early WC's before they increased the size by 3/8"?
Yes Lonnie, that is the case. I have a very early WC engine out in the barn that has the small crank journals.
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OOOPS!!  Sorry for that.



Edited by steelwheelAcjim - 14 May 2017 at 2:13pm
Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 3:02pm

I think it is the Engine that was called the 'W' Series.

The 201 in a WD, and the 226 in WD-45 were a W Series.


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34 WC #477, 38 B #1935, 1-116 on steel, #8 7ft dbl action disc, #9 5ft dbl action disc, 295 Chainsaw
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill_MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 3:59pm
That's right, the early small-crank 201s were called "W All Crop". I believe the Waukeshas were even just "All Crop"
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Bill has it right. In Terry Dean's Data Book "The WC was advertised as the Model W All-Crop untill the first part of 1934". Photos are from the 1934 Year Book.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 4:28pm
WELL.......... ya learn something new every day !
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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More photos.
34 WC #477, 38 B #1935, 1-116 on steel, #8 7ft dbl action disc, #9 5ft dbl action disc, 295 Chainsaw
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean(IA) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2017 at 5:28pm
Thank you to all of you who have helped with this request. I have what appears to
be the front cover of this brochure which I am trying to post. When  I get all of the pages restored I will post them for your interest or use. This rare piece of
A-C literature will be of interest to many of our Allis-Chalmers collector friends.
Again, thanks to all
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When did they quit putting the diamond on the sides of the radiator? I have a 34 radiator with original paint and I can't see any remnants of the decal.  I see the cover shows the waukesha engine and the rest of the pages are the a-c engine

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www.allischalmersarchive.com
Your Source Of Free Vintage Allis Chalmers Brochures Available For Downloading
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If you look at that last picture of the rear end. That tractor has the same rear end as a Waukesha wc .There are no flat spots on the rear end for the cultivator brackets to bolt to I have only seen 3 tractors that are like that. The cultivator brackets on Waukesha wc's are also the brake cover. 
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The other thing to notice about that picture is there is no starting tank in the picture.  If you look close there is a 3rd cap just In front of the fuel tank.
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I noticed that the tractor speeds shows 9 1/4 to 18 mph someone must of been using a govenor string !
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Here is the ad which I had found previously on ebay. The original ad which I copied
had such a poor image of the tractor on rubber, so I had to use the one with
steel wheels changed to rubber tires. The picture in the original ad actually
was a 3/4 right front view.
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The drawings on the brochures did not always depict the actual tractors very well. The 34 WC's never had the AC diamond on the sides of the radiator. The starter tank was on the back right up to ser. # 546 with a 2 inlet fuel filter and the hinged gas cap was used up to ser.# 510. There are a number of other parts unique to the 34 also. Here is a picture of our 34.
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Is the drawing of the "W" with the 201 1 of 3, made in 33?
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I have seen one with a 201 with the Waukesha style rear end

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Where could I purchase the 33 brochure in color? Serious buyer. Thanks.
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Thank you very much.  Brings back some very old memories
Good Luck!
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Originally posted by Randy MN Randy MN wrote:

The drawings on the brochures did not always depict the actual tractors very well. The 34 WC's never had the AC diamond on the sides of the radiator. The starter tank was on the back right up to ser. # 546 with a 2 inlet fuel filter and the hinged gas cap was used up to ser.# 510. There are a number of other parts unique to the 34 also. Here is a picture of our 34.
That sure is a nice looking tractor Randy!  Guessing you won’t honor the $675 price noted in the brochureWink
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I was reading the advertising literature and all the copies say the tractor will do 18mph in 4th gear. No way!!!! Maybe rolling down a steep hill in neutral!!!! If you have to stop hold the steering wheel with your knees because both hands will be on the brakes!!!!!
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Scott, that was for a new one, used prices are different!

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Thanks for the kind words Scott. So, I guess I could honor that $675.....if you add a 1 and 2 in front of that!  LOL
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