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    Posted: 31 Dec 2018 at 1:29pm
The Allis-Chalmers One-Ninety diesel, remained in production through January of 1973 with 23 units being built...serial numbers 31118 - 31140

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They are awesome machines!
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some scumbag on you tube listed the 190 as one of the 10 worst tractors built. I think he's been put in his place by lots of other people! dumb a$$
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Probably a green guy who wouldn't know a good tractor if it bit him!  (what name did you use bashing the 190?)
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

some scumbag on you tube listed the 190 as one of the 10 worst tractors built. I think he's been put in his place by lots of other people! dumb a$$


I guess that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it damn sure doesn't agree with my opinion. Darrel
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I saw that Top Ten ranking too. The Author listed the 190XT as bad due to a poor ride and hydraulic leaks. I don't know what to say to someone like that. They are NOT known for either of those things. Just simply not true. He is an internet prowler and this is where he said he gets his information.
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I saw it too. The guy is an idiot.
sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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I watched it too. And thought the same. Besides the 190, they also listed a IH 560. Having grown up operating a farmall M, a 560 seemed terrific.
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The IH 560 actually did have some serious rear end troubles that cost IH millions to fix. That is a historical fact. The important thing is this....THEY FIXED THEM at no cost to the Customer. A-C had even more serious issues with the mighty 190 XT's and they spent millions fixing them too. The moron that posted that " worst tractor" video is so ignorant he doesn't get the facts straight. He listed the 2010 Deere as a bad one. That was true, but his reasons weren't exactly true on it either. The engines on a 2010 were a piece of crap and Deere never redesigned them. They just quit making that model of tractor. The 2000 series MF tractor should have been listed but were not mentioned. The 4520 Deere also should have been a contender. The Ford Commander 6000 was #1 the worst and that was probably a good choice.
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I owned a Ford 6000 Commander for about 5 years mostly baled hay with it couldn't have asked for a better tractor,got an offer for it that was really good so i sold it.A lot of tractors got a bad name because they were abused by the operators and over weighted,
fuel turned up etc.

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I haven’t seen the video, only just what I read here. Being a 190XT owner, I have been very pleased with the XT’s performance. It’s done everything I expected and more. So, everyone has an opinion, just some don’t hold much weight with me. Unless you own one or use one regularly to know of its performance, then your opinion doesn’t mean squat. What an idiot is correct.
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I haven't seen the vid either, but lot of these internet gents are just geldings that neigh...  and did not even live through that era of the modern horses.
 The JD 4010 threw lot of rods thru the block on JD's first run of them, look in the Sunday ads and see "hole in block"... But as time went by, didn't see that as often... 4020 was nill.
 Them Fords were a different story, specially the select-O-speeds... They were put on the assembly line before the bugs were worked out of them... Got a little 900 with it and that was the worst of them as I understood... and that bugger had been used so far that the pto splines are almost nonexsistance... along with--tranny problems.Confused  A local fellow had two Ford 6000 Commanders, both had their pumps turned up... he did custom work and was all over the country plowing, discing, planting or chopping... and I don't recall him having troubles with the select-o-speed in those beasts, used them until he retired. The DNR tower had radioed in that there was smoke and the rangers went looking and old Bill Beckmark was told to turn that injection pump down some. LOL The 6000 had an accumulator on it and he could raise and lower the header on his chopper twice before the charge was gone, or raise the disc up once.
 McCormick Deerings had their problems when they went to diesels, cracking heads was one of them... and you had to cool them down for several minutes before shutting them off... I thought I found the reason why they cracked, an origional book said to switch them to gas and let them run for couple minutes that way before shutting down and nobody did... Talked to old timer and he said the engines ran cooler on diesel and less breakage happened and no warped valves when shutting them off on diesel, just cool them down first... all the way up to the 450/650's... and then McD came out with the direct injected engines and fellows were turning them up and rear ends and ta's were causing troubles... of course, usually in the ones that got turned up. Two neighbors had 560's and one had the gas, and the other a diesel... Fellow with the diesel would pull the jd 4-14 plow all day long and be rolling smoke but was moving right along too. The other fellow decided to burrow the 4-14 plow and hooked on with his 560 gas. He pulled into a sod field and opened up the throttle and dropped the plow and promptly killed it. shifted down a gear and tried it again and again and finally could pull the plow down hill in first gear... but could not pull the plow up the hill. Plowed that whole field going down hill. LOL We use to rent the place and farmed it with WD45 and a D17 3-14 mounted plows and ran in second gear in the heavy clay.
  Allis had a few issues/problems, they were designing tractors to use less oil, and be lighter with higher hp... but when the fluids in the tires and weights were hung on, the oil wore out faster and should have been changed far more often than they were... Some of them old tractors only got added to. The D series seemed to have a greater amount of tranny/rearend troubles than what others had, but if you kept the oils changed and did not reef on the shift stick and drop clutches and pull the holy snot out of them, they would last. and along came the first series of the 190XT with the small axels and they would break or snap... and the differential would shell out too and tranny troubles... Bought one of those rebuilt light axels where they could not put in the bigger axel but onl the harden axel... Bought it back in 1976 and 40+ years later and shifted millions of times and two injection pump rebuilds and one turbo, the tractor still being used for round baling... though the high range now slips when in fourth going up a hill, and just starting to jump out of fourth gear last year.  It has been a good tractor.
  Lot of tractors will show what kind of care had been given to them over the years... I know of a 1066 that looks like new from always being sheded, yet it has had the engine rebuilt 2 times from electrolysis cavitation on the sleeves. It was the main tractor on the 760 acre farm since about 1972 until the fellow retired and rented his land out. It is always ready to start for the owner now 90 years old. Before that, he had a GIV Moline as his main tractor for about 11 years prior, bought in 1961, and was sold in 2011, still looking in great shape with origional paint. 
  Makes a big difference on how they are cared for by the owner.
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I agree with Mr. Burnett on the abuse part of it...I've got a brother that knows how to treat a tractor like chit! He could tear up a chunk of steel!
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the last units - were built after the 200 went on the line in 1972 - they were high clear units shipped to La. - per my sales mgr. Felix Patterson..  They were not going to build the 200 in a high crop so he got orders and they built the 190XT Series III High Crop to fill the orders. 
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Tom what was different other then the high crop and decals.
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