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Allis engine in a pickup, again

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    Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 1:37am
So after I managed to lose the last post here on this, and I found a few vehicles that will work, this is what I remember on this:

Ford clutch/transmission will bolt on to a Allis engine without much trouble or any

Some differential gearing may need to be changed to get up to hyway speeds

Make your own engine mounts

And something about a governor change

What am I missing here?

I plan to put a 301 or 426 out of a Gleaner into a: 80s Ford or GM pickup or 98/99 Ford pickup as those ones seem to have enough room for it to fit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 7:16am
Always thought the AC 2800 301ci engine in my 180 would be a drop in for a Chevy inline replacement. They even appear much the same externally just the add ons as W/P fan, flywheel and assorted connection points would be hard to cross over. Having no advance to speak of in the injection system would be tough as to maintaining a power curve.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheGleaner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 10:39am
Yeah that's where the idea came from, but I didn't know it the 433 is the same pattern etc as the 649, 670
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I got a Perkins 6-334 that came out of chev suburban - used the perkins bell housing and mounted a SM- 465 4 speed to it - turbo - and motor mounts - 
 Modified intake to all fit under the hood with turbo - was suppose to be from M F combine - sure would like to find a home for the works 

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Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

 https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=16410

This truck was built by Mel Dawson, from Rensselaer, In. and was a product of his dreams and the Dunlap boys, Chuck and Terry. Chuck Dunlap started working for Claussen's Equipment just after he got out of the Navy. Terry (the younger  brother) started after high school. I don't know all of the particulars,,,,,,,,,,,,,, only a few, like the adapter plate was made in a local welding shop,,,,,,,,,,, Bilyeau and Eaton,,,, and most of the rest of the stuff was done at the dealership. 
This truck was originally green where Marion painted the Orange,,, otherwise it is pretty much as Melvin built it! 
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someone needs to show this to Les!
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In the late 90's Dad was given a 6-354 perkins out of a MF combine for payment for helping my Grandpa switch engines in a combine during harvest. It had been run out of oil. Took the pan off and crank was fine. Uncle saw the gage go to zero and shut the machine down so only damage was to the bearings. Dad put in a new oil pump and new bearings and fixed the seal in the injection pump that had allowed the machine to burn all its oil. Mated a 5 spd out of an international straight truck to it modifying the IH bell housing to fit. Had to have the flywheel thinned a 1/4 of an inch or so and had to have a drive shaft made up. Then crammed the whole thing into a 76 F150. Was a very tight fit. Water pump almost touches radiator so had to go with electric fans. Had to gear the truck high to get it to go very fast, and turned up the pump a bit. Would manage 75 mph with foot to the floor and would clear 20 mpg. But wasn't any kind of a power house. We ran it for years until he found a cheap powerstroke. Still have the F150 sitting around and want to get it back going so I can use it around the farm to carry a water tank for watering trees. But it sat long enough it lost its prime and so far has been fighting us trying to get it reprimed.

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I've heard that an industrial/construction equipment dealer in Sioux Falls South Dakota put a 426 allis engine into one of their service trucks one time with very favorable results. Darrel
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Also in a related note, does anyone know where I can get a exploded view of the front end of a 99 Ford f250+? Now that I'm looking at mine, I'm worried about a crossbeam in front(I mean it's not worst case scenario I can put it in a 80s/early 90s Ford/GM too)
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