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Allis Chalmers Forklift ACE 30A help

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    Posted: 17 Sep 2018 at 5:57pm
Allis Chalmers Forklift ACE 30A help

Just bought an old Allis Chalmers Forklift ACE 30A need help.
Electrics are good, controls are fine, Brakes inop. Pedal goes to floor.
Anybody have a link for a service manual ?
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there's a sit with a zillion old milatary manuals, for sure he has it.sorry can't think of the name. member getting 'lost' there as I downloaded a lot of neat stuff... he does have a lot of A-C f/l stuff....
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http://www.liberatedmanuals.com/all.mpl

this is the site.....have fun, just remember what you're looking for Smile
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Thanks, I'm familiar with that link as I've gotten a ton of free military electronic manuals there in the past. But, NO, they don't have anything that will help me today.
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Carl: Thanks again. Today I pulled out all of the contacts. They are solid Silver and replaceable. They were not that bad, so I reground them to the original slight arc and polished all 8 and that made a huge difference in the for/aft control. Then an adjustment to the lift and tilt switches got rid of the jerky response. I fetched the leaky cylinder from the hydraulics shop and re-installed it. I used the machine all day with no control problems whatsoever and no more leaks. I also received a manual thru eBay today. It covers the Allis Chalmers ACE 20 thru 120 series Electric forklifts and has all of the schematics and systems trouble shooting info. It looks like my system is not Actronic, and after reading the Actronic section of the manual, that's a relief. So, I'm in good shape now thanks to all of the help here. Thanks guys.

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Sent : Sep 26 2018 at 10:26am


If you can find a LPM lift dealer or a Crown dealer they should be able to help with the electrical parts Contact tips could help if they are arcing or depending on the control system {actronic or GE } it could be as simple as an adjustment or control potentiometer in the foot pedal control box think of it as a volume control on a radio If its a GE system there should be a creep adjustment on the control card that adjusts the initial start speed  so it barely moves when you push on the gas pedal There is also a 1A time on the control card that adjusts how long it takes for 1A to pull in at max pedal and should be a smooth transition to max speed If its an actronic system all bets are off as they use different cards to control speeds and are a nightmare to work on LOL
Hope this helps and PM back if you have questions
Carl

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Sent : 24 Sep 2018 at 11:23pm


Thanks. Found a completely dry Master Cylinder and filled it. It took quite a bit of time to work all of the air out, but the brakes have been holding solid for the last few days. I found several tilt cylinder kits, all different numbers, but without a parts manual I thought I'd be throwing money away. I did find a local machine shop that agreed to rebuild the tilt cylinder for $100. They have it now. My next project will be trying to smooth out the slightly jumpy controls. From what I've read, the controller contacts may need service.
The machine is coming along nicely on very few dollars. I hope it continues that way.
Thanks again.


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Sent : Sep 24 2018 at 12:34pm

Hi sorry cant help with manual but the brakes are pretty simple master cylinder should be below the floor board with lines running to the wheels brakes and cylinders are behind the drive wheels .Wheels should have caps in the center and a large nut holding bearings on IE you have bolts holding wheels on depends on year and size of lift { they made a small 3000 lb and a large 3-4 and 5000 } cylinders are probably not available but kits should be NAPA or any auto parts store should be able to get brake shoes can be relined if you have a shop that does clutch and brake remanufacturing
Hope this helps

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