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Herb(GA) 
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 9:22pm |
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Herb(GA)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 9:44pm |
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What years did AC manufacture bale loaders? AC dealers in our area were small and far between so never saw one in use. July 2020 Allis Connection calendar is photo of one in use in MN; bale wagon shows bales thrown into large bale wagon; bales are not neatly stacked. Mt thoughts are the bales would require reshaping before they could be stacked decently? Herb(GA)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 10:30pm |
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My brother has one on a 404. I don't think he's ever used it. He uses 5x5 rounds for his cattle.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 10:40pm |
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Nope, we just pulled them out of the wagons and put them on the bail elevator up to the loft. They took back their shape and if they didn't, you just stacked them and forced them back into shape. It made baling faster and less manpower needed to do the job.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 4:58am |
 Herb(GA) wrote:
What years did AC manufacture bale loaders? AC dealers in our area were small and far between so never saw one in use. July 2020 Allis Connection calendar is photo of one in use in MN; bale wagon shows bales thrown into large bale wagon; bales are not neatly stacked. Mt thoughts are the bales would require reshaping before they could be stacked decently? Herb(GA)
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Square bale throwers started out in 1964, with an engine driven thrower, on the 303 baler, later the 44 thrower (belt drive, belt thrower) was produced till the line was discontinued in 1975. (per Swinford) 
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DougG
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Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 8:50am |
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How much tension had to be on that spring mechanism to launch a square bale?
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Posted: 21 Dec 2019 at 9:52am |
DougG wrote:
How much tension had to be on that spring mechanism to launch a square bale? |
I had a New Holland engine powered thrower, that used a pair of belts that ran continually and as the "peanut bale" as we called them was pushed out of the chamber the running belts grabbed them and launched into the air they landed in the basket type wagon. We did not stack them in the mow, but just let them fall off the elevator. There was a conveyer system that could be hung from the old barn track, that was used back in the day of loose hay, that would bales take the bales on into the mow. J.D. used a thrower system on their baler that would grab the bale and throw it into the wagon. I went from hireling 4 young guys to help me bale and mow hay, to just one, using the thrower. The B&G engine running the thrower, gave ms some problems. Had a neighbor that had the J.D. and he had a hard time making it work right.
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DougG
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Posted: 22 Dec 2019 at 7:07am |
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I Gottcha, thanks Dusty I've never been around one
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 22 Dec 2019 at 12:50pm |
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One of them recent videos on here from Hutch shows one in action
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HagerAC
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Posted: 22 Dec 2019 at 9:56pm |
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That picture is of my 444 baler behind my 180. If there bales are nice and tight and made dry the hold their shape very well.
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