Allis 415 loader to a D17

Why would you want to use a front pump on a series 4 ???    Only have one remote valve ?? instead of two ??   I'd get a second remote valve.

I'd be getting a couple of shut-off valves for the bucket and make that work. Move the bucket couplers back with a tee in-between. Then, connect buckets hoses to the bottom of the tee. Place shut-offs wherever you want. The upkeep of a second pump and drive shaft and it takes some HP/fuel to run a second pump. You also haven't priced a new pump or mounting plate or drive shaft or drive hub or chain coupling to make it all work.

Edited by DrAllis - 25 Nov 2024 at 6:47pm

Bump for pictures of how other 400 series loaders are mounted please.

An operators or parts manual is needed. either will answer your questions. 

Couple of pics.

Yes Kenny those are the sketches and pictures I was referring to.

G

Wow, I only had to watch this Video a few minutes and I thought to myself what an idiotic Redneck way to complete what is really a simple Task.

Simple that is if you have been shown the correct procedure, OR you have the Allis 'Operating Instructions and Parts Illustrations Manual'.

The Manual clearly states and illustrates you first install the Left and Right Frames loosely to the Tractor.

Then you install the 'Frame Spacers' between the Left and Right Frames.

After you have tightened all the Frame bolts, you install the Lift Cylinders with hoses attached.

   After completing the installation of the front Pump, guard, hoses, etc.,

    only then do you attach the Boom and Bucket.

So in the Original Posters case, he would perform the above Tasks IN REVERSE.


     1) Remove the Loader Boom and Bucket.

     2) Remove lift Cylinders

     3) Remove Left and Right Frames.

Use a chain hoist, Engine Hoist, or another Tractor Loader to support the Frames.

Forget removing Rear Tires and Wheels, Fenders, the need for Jack Stands, blocking front wheels, pulling on the whole loader assembly trying to drag it forward.

The whole Task really is quite simple if you follow the Reverse Procedure of installing the Frames, Loader Boom, Lift Cylinders, etc. to the Tractor.

     AND much Safer as well!

Gary

It is important on a D-17 series to make sure that small angle iron clip is attached to the big U-bolt and on a fender mounting bracket bolt to keep the U-bolts from spreading apart.

Edited by Dragfluid - 01 Dec 2024 at 8:00pm

darrel in ND wrote:

Just to elaborate a little on what Doc said; series one, two, and three all had the high pressure, low volume hydraulic pumps, that were internally mounted, and dead when you stepped on the clutch. Series 4 went to low pressure, high volume pump, that was externally mounted in what was previously the mounting spot for the belt pulley, and was full on "live', even when stepping on the clutch.