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Allis 190xt Oil/Fluid Type.
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    Posted: 04 Jun 2020 at 4:46pm
Hello everyone. Please bear with me. My manual is still in the mail & I'm getting impatient, do I'll ask it here! What's a readily-available hydraulic/transmission fluid to use please? Will "303 Tractor Fluid" from TSC/Orscheln work? Also. What's the engine oil weight/capacity please? Thank you everyone.
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Personal opions abound, I have used tsc premium hydraulic, it indicates its ac compliant. Have not heard too many good things about 303. Take it for what it worth. Engine oil, 15-40, either shell rotella or mobil delvac. Agin cost and availabilty factor in where you are located.12 qrts with filter change.
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From the op manual -
Power director. 28 qrts.transmission 38 qrts. Final drives 8 qrt each.
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Need an oil that meets AC/Agco 821 spec oil. 303 does not meet 821 spec.
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x3!
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Perhaps I've missed some of your previous info, what engine is in your machine ??
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I'm sorry. Perhaps I didn't clarify. A 2900 turbo diesel. With a GB 800 Workmaster Loader.
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You can buy several different brands of Universal Tractor FLuid at Wal Mart, Farm Store, NAPA or other....They will have a LIST of SPECS that are met on the back of the label.. Such as ALLIS 821, CASE HYTRANS , CAT C02, C3... etc.... THe GOOD STUFF will meet 20 different specs.. If it is really " generic" it might have few if any SPECS.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Not to insight an argument, but, there seems to to conflicting opinions. I guess maybe I should ask: What's the best universal tractor hydraulic fluid that meets the specs for Allis 190xt?
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We run 15/40 weight and am pretty sure it takes 12 quarts w/filter change Wink
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Thats like asking  "What is the best auto engine oil"..... There are several manufacturers.. as long as it MEETS THE SPEC it should be good..... Brand name is not important... You can buy CASE HYTRANS from the dealer... or get a "GENERIC" that meets the spec for half price..
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Originally posted by NoslenroK NoslenroK wrote:

Not to insight an argument, but, there seems to to conflicting opinions. I guess maybe I should ask: What's the best universal tractor hydraulic fluid that meets the specs for Allis 190xt?
IMO, any fluid that "STATES" in their specs, 821
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As an example , here is MYSTIC oil by CITGO.... this is their "SPEC SHEET"...
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Steve, thank you immensely. I wanted to know what spec. of oil I needed, but really a particular brand. Thank you so very much!
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Manufacturers are SHELL, MOBIL, TEXACO, CITGO ......... and smaller like WARREN OIL..

Warren makes a LOT OF Hydrualic oil and  cans it for DOZENS of  AFTERMARKET sellers.... Napa, Farm Store, Wal Mart.... NONE of them  process oil... they buy from SOMOENE.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Final drives should have gear oil not universal trans hydraulic correct?
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I only wanted to state the quantities in my earlier post, not type of oil in finals. Yes. Sorry about any confusion.
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Nos, look up the TRACTOR DATA site and browse the 190 XT , it gives pretty much all of the fluid capacities on the machine Wink
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Thanks Steve, I have a couple of smaller Allis(B and WD) but recently bought a 65 190XT and looked here for information on oil change.  It’s a great running machine but needs an oil change!
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303 is straight hydraulic oil and does not have the additives for the wet clutch.
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