Agco Allis 9675

Hey all, what’s the good bad and the ugly on these? Parts and service readily available?

Been to Google. Some love Em, some had problems. Go figure! Thought I’d ask here directly.

tbran wrote: WHITE MM rear end - White cab, 466 engine, Funk (deere) (same as some NH )  tranny's. We had less issues out of these than the 8200 MF's...  There were upgrades along - no re occurring issues. As to parts, as with any 30 some odd year old tractor, there are some parts NLA new but there are several salvage yards to source from. Engine parts are not an issue.

thanks tbran. That 466 is the IH engine correct? They sure made a zillion of those. I’ve got a truck with one, runs great.

9435 had the 7.6L motor................. 9675 had the 8.7L  ??

those were originally IH engines.... Detroit bought some engines sometime before 2000...  ??

Edited by steve(ill) - 13 Jul 2023 at 7:42pm

They were a NAVISTAR engine, never used in any farm tractor until AGCO bought them from Detroit, who bought them from Navistar and were sold as (series 40) the baby-brother to the Series 60 Detroit. This engine was NOTHING like the DT-400 series IH used in farm equipment.  Series 40's were DT-408----DT-466----DT-530 in displacements. AGCO never bought any 408's.

I have a 9675. Has about 4500 hours on it. Been a great tractor, cab is pretty good and plenty of power. Trans controllers had some issues is these models, but thats the only major complaint Ive heard about them. 9675 will have the 530 cube 40 series detroit in it. 

tbran wrote: WHITE MM rear end - White cab, 466 engine, Funk (deere) (same as some NH )  tranny's. We had less issues out of these than the 8200 MF's...  There were upgrades along - no re occurring issues. As to parts, as with any 30 some odd year old tractor, there are some parts NLA new but there are several salvage yards to source from. Engine parts are not an issue.

From what I was told the Funk tranny they used was similar to was in the Genesis not the same as. Just like the Genesis tranny was similar to the 8x00 Deere but not the same.   

It's only confusing because people are confusing apples with oranges. The ACGO 9600 and White 6100 series were basically the same tractor with different engines. Parts between the two were pretty  much a match  on both ends of the HP ranges (except engine parts).

The tractor I’m considering has a lot of hours on it (9000+), but the claim is it’s been all easy non farm hours. A lot of tractor for me money but…. Nearest Agco dealer is a long way away, don’t want to be making the trip often.

Agco worked with Funk as did NH as stated.  The large Deutz engine in Funk test determined some beefiness was needed to handle the torque of the 513 engine - some of which pulled WAY, WAY more than the specs.  The first trannys had a straight cut input gear that was the weakest link in the long term wear chain. They are NLA but we worked with Heitman Tractor salvage to reverse engineer some. The latter  9815 and other liquid cooled power plants seldom compared with the Deutz unless 'messed' with. We sold 3 to a clay mining business who hulled out the input gear. The customer said it would outpull the other two.  After repair we dyno'd the unit - our big M&W would not hold it - pulled the tire off the ground. First and only time a customer requested to 'turn it down' .  225-230 were #'s not uncommon.