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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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At what point in your farming career did you decide a cab was necessary for the continuation of your operation ? A classified add got me wondering . At what size of tractor was a "cab" offered as a factory "standard" ?? Thanks
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2877 |
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Necessary for continuing? I’m 44 been farming since I got out of high school and the two tractors that get the most hours are open station still. To this day I’ll say unless cab has GOOD air conditioning your better off with no cab. Grandpa milked full time till he was 76 and baled for uncle and I till he was 95 or 96 he never owned a cab tractor and probably combined never drove a mile in a cab tractor of ours. He drove the Gleaner K but door was tied open with baler twine. I was 26 about to turn 27 when I bought the 8030. I got an uncle that was in his mid 50’s before he had a cab tractor.
You read on Agtalk sounds like a lot of softies.
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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You make too many assumptions Tomcat ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A "softie" would jump ship for GREEN BTW
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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my Dr. advised me to get a cab on the tractor, says i was breathing in to much dust. that was in 1979, in 1980 i bought the 7010 with the factory cab. my Dad had never had anything with a cab on it. one year he wanted to help during planting, i put him in my 7010 with the air conditioning. sent him out to disk. i had the open tractor with the planter. there were days i couldn't get him out of that tractor, he liked it so much he would disk the same field twice! lol. i got him to stop and i'd open the door, the radio blasting and the air cond blowing! also a big smile on his face! was alot different then than it was when i first brought that new tractor home....he looked at it and flat told me he never had a cab on any of his tractors!
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Ky.Allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 1020 |
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Shameless hit the nail "on the head". The story with my dad and me was exactly like his. OH and tomorrow morning it's going to be 12 deg. with wind chill and heated cab will make feeding cattle much more pleasant. Once you get a tractor with good cab and good AC and heat you will kick yourself in the A** for not getting it sooner. It's not being a "softie". It's using your head for it's intended purpose.
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BigGuy1000 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Location: NWIL Points: 126 |
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Farming these hills more than 50 years here with 5 different tractors. Still no cab, but one does have ROPS!
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Randy WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 822 |
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I plowed snow with a WD45 for a lot of years in 2010 my wife bought me a John Deere 4320 compact tractor with a cab that was it I never want to plow snow with out a cab. I have 4 other tractors with a dozer with out cabs their fine for us in the summer. Randy
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only AC orange ![]() Silver Level Access ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2014 Location: Eastern Indiana Points: 491 |
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The early cabs without AC weren't user friendly (noisy, hot in the Summer, hard to enter and exit, usually not air tight or dust proof)! I had a 185 with Year A Round cab with heat and no air, was a chore / planter tractor - removed cab because it wasn't easy to enter/exit.
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5058 |
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I think the first cabs were on combines for harvesting corn.
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917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express"
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3466 |
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That warm circulating engine coolant floor heater felt great in the older combine cabs on those harsh days.
Our chore tractor was usually first to be outfitted with a heat-houser in late October & it stayed on until late April. Other tractor that hauled grain wagons from combine to grain dryer would be setup with heat-houser as needed, if harvest was late or prolonged. |
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Sherman Farms ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Centerburg, OH Points: 1657 |
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Put a year round cab on my 190 in 1973 so we could all winter without freezing. Still have the tractor and cab. If i need a tractor now in the winter i use my RT155a with a nice cab and heater.
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B, C, RC, 3 wc,2 wd,3 wd45, d15, d17, d19, d21, 190, 440, 7040, 918 backhoe, 12 roto balers, 7 60 combines, 40, 66,2 72,90 super, sp100, Gleaner E, F3, 3 L2, R62, and much more
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Sherman Farms ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Centerburg, OH Points: 1657 |
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Left plow all winter.
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B, C, RC, 3 wc,2 wd,3 wd45, d15, d17, d19, d21, 190, 440, 7040, 918 backhoe, 12 roto balers, 7 60 combines, 40, 66,2 72,90 super, sp100, Gleaner E, F3, 3 L2, R62, and much more
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2877 |
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Agree with AC orange. The aftermarket ones are worse than nothing. I removed the aftermarket cab off my 6080. It was remove or sell the tractor.
Edited by victoryallis - 25 Dec 2020 at 7:18pm |
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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DanWi ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1900 |
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I never thought the Hiniker or Year-a-round cabs were that bad on a 190 or 200. They offered protection from the wind and some heat, in summer shade and you could open windows or completely remove them. Cab tractors I think became more popular as farms grew bigger and guys worked longer hours at night, My grandfather hardly ever even used the lights on the tractor, if he couldn't get it done in the daylight you had to much work. Only remember dad out plowing for him in the fall late a few times. Other things that made a cab necessary was chopping haylage on a windy day. Just like other luxuries you didn't need a radio now you wouldn't sit all day in a tractor without one.
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ksbowman ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 19 Mar 2013 Location: Paola, Ks Points: 228 |
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I have a 180 Year round on my 170, the 180 has a cab and the 190. I never use the heater, just the sun coming in the winter is sufficient but, the fact that it blocks the wind makes so much difference. Agreed in the summer I open all the windows and the cab keeps me from getting ate alive by the hedge tree brush hogging. I love mine. I froze my butt off too many cold days putting out hay in an open station.
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matador ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Nov 2014 Location: Wyoming Points: 1727 |
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I bought an Oliver 1800A last month as a Christmas present for my father (We'll both be running it in our straw business). We're both glad to have that cab- not only do they offer a wind break and some warmth in summer, but heaven forbid, if we're in an accident, I'd rather have a cab than nothing
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I farmed from 1955 to 2018 without a cab. Wore out 2 of my own heathousers. I bought the late 200 with factory cab. Air doesn't work but I sure enjoy that heat. If I were younger and still farming my next tractor would be something in the size of an 8010 or 20 Allis. With a cab.
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PaulB ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4928 |
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I have never found that I wished to have a cab on a tractor. Doing things in rain or snow would be the exception. There is nothing any longer that I need to do with a tractor in inclement weather.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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AllisFreak MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Points: 1574 |
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The older a guy gets, a heated cab becomes more appealing, at least up here in the Northland, if you use the tractor for snow removal. I spent enough years on a cabless tractor blowing snow in -20 below not counting the wind chill with snowdust blasting me in the face. I love my 6060 with factory cab. Now I can plow snow in a t shirt.
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'49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2
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TimCNY ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2014 Location: Upstate NY Points: 1551 |
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Well, the only reason I'd want a cab (never had one YET) is because of the ground hornets, yellow jackets and wasps that I encounter when brush mowing. Merciless little savage bastidges... I've nearly lost my sight because of them more times than I can recall. Once I ran the brush mower over what I thought was a very large ant mound, and maybe once upon a time it WAS, but it turned out to be a ground nest for yellow jackets, I have never seen such a nest or such an enormous population of them in one nest. It was literally a long cloud of them pouring out of the beheaded mound. Slapped the tractor in hi gear and fled the scene but still got stung dozens of times.
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I need more than 200 characters for my "signature." I'd love to see that changed to 250!
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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There's been multiple reply's about Heat-Houser's
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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X whatever on a crappy cab being worse than no cab. The first cab we got was an Ansel on a smaller Deere, though our biggest tractor at the time. WHEN the air conditioning worked, it sure was nice but I can count on one hand the full days I put in with working air. Several years ago, the doors were taken off and the AC capped off and a different belt put on to no longer drive it.
When I bought the combine, I asked “Does the air work?” “I think so” was the answer. Well that would be a no. When I bought the 7045 Allis, asked, “Does the air work?” “Yep”. Well, it was a rather cold early spring day, it seemed to be blowing cool air... but turns out, NO! The way the side windows open, that thing is a brutal hot box in the summer. We actually have a little fan rigged up to give a little breeze. The cab fan works, but blows hot air on you. I have a buddy that’s a certified refrigeration tech, he hasn’t figured out what’s wrong with it yet. I feed cows in northern Michigan with an open station tractor. You can dress for the cold but you can only take off so many clothes and it’s still hot. Air would sure be nice! |
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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To add to the "non AC cab", the worst environment that I was put into was a "sunset yellow" CASE 1070
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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What is this “radio” thing of which you speak?
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JohnColo ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2020 Location: Niwot, CO Points: 1263 |
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My first cab tractor was an early Case 1070 with an Ansel cab in the early '80's. It had a swamp cooler which wasn't bad unless the field was rough then I would get my legs watered as the water splashed onto me. It was nice in the Spring and Fall tho, even though it didn't have a heater. A few years later I bought a new Zetor with air AND heat, wow what a difference! My first AC with a cab was the 7580 I got in 2003, ac never has worked and I don't use it enough to bother fixing it. I remember a neighbor saying one time, "I can't understand why these guys spend all this money for a cab on their tractors, I don't need one." He was still farming with IH WD's and M's in his 50's, come mid 60's he went out and bought a brand new Case with a factory cab. I asked his next door neighbor about that, he said it took Paul about 10 more years to see the advantage in having air and heat. When he died in his 70's I heard he still had a bunch of money in the bank that his relatives got.
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Dakota Dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: ND Points: 3964 |
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My 190 has the early leg slasher split door cab. In the summer I pull the hinde pin and hang the door in the barn the Windows lock full open so it's like riding in the shade. All the tractors at the farm have working AC and heat. You can't drive one without it. Only window that opens is the rear. We change out the cabin air filters every summer. Keeps you out of the choking dust chaff and chemicals. Since tractor cabs have been used for many years now. Farmers lung is a thing of the past. My WD 45 with the snow blower has an aftermarket cab. Fortunately I have another one to use for everything else.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396 |
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LMAO !!! Yes, someone felt my pain !!! At least the same farmer had a Case open station 830 with a fender mount radio that I could pull in WLS in the "early" '80's when they still played music ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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I can sort of remember the radio in the Ansel cab working for a while. But that thing was such an echo chamber and so friggin’ loud in there it was pointless. Better off with a Walkman and ear phones. I didn’t have too many 8 tracks to try and see if that worked!
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DanWi ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1900 |
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My dad's cousin got a cab on his tractor when he was having some health issues and the doc told him he needed to do it for his health.
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