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   Normally you hold them on for about 2 to 5 minutes depending on how despite cold and shut them off before starting.  Hook the position to the position and the negative to the negative on the two batteries and you will be ok the system will see 12 volts and twice the current the charging will work normal.  But I would rather put a trickle charger on it and plug it in when I want to start it may be plug it in 4 hours or more before hand that will heat the battery up and top it off they are cheep think called RV chargers ment to be left plugged in all the time to make sure your rv will start in the spring. 

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Dan73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan73 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 2:35pm
	Normally you hold them on for about 2 to 5 minutes depending on how despite cold and shut them off before starting. Hook the position to the position and the negative to the negative on the two batteries and you will be ok the system will see 12 volts and twice the current the charging will work normal. But I would rather put a trickle charger on it and plug it in when I want to start it may be plug it in 4 hours or more before hand that will heat the battery up and top it off they are cheep think called RV chargers ment to be left plugged in all the time to make sure your rv will start in the spring.

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Dan73 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan73 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 7:45pm
	Shameless maybe you can help out the shareholders next time you see them and add some DEF for them. Sounds like they might have forgotten to put it in the fuel tank you wouldn't want them to run out.... It will probably be a better stress relief to you knowing you help them out then smoking. Or just refill the dry gas can with Def for them.... Edited by Dan73 - 30 Nov 2016 at 7:49pm

DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53533	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 8:22pm
	As Dan said, 2-5 mins to run a air horn type pre-heater, and don't use ether, when doing it! I'd just park a coleman single burner gas stove under the oil pan, for about 45 mins prior to trying to start. Don't do this, on a leaky engine... If ya do it in the morning, you can cook breakfast, and preheat, all at the same time, multi-tasking, doncha know! Edited by DiyDave - 30 Nov 2016 at 8:22pm

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 9:00pm
	20-30 seconds is long enough for most glow plugs. Some guys used to start 45&D17 diesels with a corn cob hung on tractor. Unscrew plug on side of intake, stick cob in fuel tank, light cob, stick cob in manifold, and crank.(called corn cob start). MACK

JC-WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34259	Post Options Post Reply Quote JC-WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2016 at 3:47am
	On my old D17, I had a milk strainer pad in the tool box and I would give the pad a quick squirt of ether and then start cranking the engine as I brought the pad up to the hole and the old beast would start... just very short quick spray in the hole would lock her up... There was a couple times I started it with blowing flames into the manifold from a propane torch. Another fellow when he shut his WD45 diesel off, he would open the plug up and give a good squirt into that engine and then put the plug back in... said it would start right up the next time he would use it. *** As for mixing gas and diesel... NO!!! Dad topped off the tank on the old 17 one day and got 2 miles down the road and there he sat... injection pump ruined... He figured he put about 6-8 gallons of gas into the 19 gallon tank. My Bobcat has a perkins in it with cold start aid... turn the key on, and press the button for about 40 seconds and you will hear a 'wop' and release the button and turn the starter switch... the diesel fuel in the preheater catches fire and then you suck the flames in to start... and really works good. Massy harris and some others had a similer system for years.
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