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    Posted: 19 Jul 2012 at 11:02pm
I just watched a great documentary on Ab Jenkins and the many land speed records that he set on Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats...Including vintage footage of him going nearly 70 miles per hour on an Allis-Chalmers U in 1934.Shocked This movie is called; BOYS OF BONNEVILLE: RACING ON A RIBBON OF SALT. It's a great movie even if it didn't include the tractor racing action! The movie DVD is available at www.boysofbonneville.com for $19.99. Kip

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70 mph on a new, much less vintage tractor is wild! My Farmall 504 with 2 size larger (14.9x38) tires will exceed 30 mph. THAT is a wild ride... I can only imagine +70 mph!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tractorman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 8:03am
if that ab jenkins movie is out there someone must have it to put on here, and how about Barney  Oldfield and his racing records and fair grounds racing? i had seen a tvcommercial featuring the tractors racingbut have no idea where it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 10:39am
The part that amazes me... is that one of the intentions was to demonstrate pneumatic tires on tractors...

The centrifugal forces which occur on tractor tires (large diameter, not light!) spinning at that speed are incredible.  A 50" diameter tire (157" circumference) requires about 400 revolutions to cover one mile.  At 60mph, that's 400rpm...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KGood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 10:50am

Surely they used the leafspring front end option on the U's for racing. Still going around a circle at 70MPH on a 5000lb tractor would have been exciting.

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I'll bet he wore a cup!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote R.W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 11:09am
And I thought going 20mph on a Farmall was fast! Cool
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Here's an old photo of the record breaking event.
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The first tractor tires were aircraft tires. Where they had to survive 50 to 80 mph landing and take off speeds.

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Well maybe he could cultivate at 40mph...lol
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I became aqainted with Ab's son Marvin while he was finishing the restoration of his Dad's Mormon Meteor III race car that set many land speed records on the salt flats. He was present when Ab raced the U on the salt. After the run Ab commented that it was like sitting on top of a charging buffalo! Ab was also often one of the celebrity drivers along with Barney Oldfield and others that raced Model U tractors on dirt tracks all over the mid-west. According to Marvin, Oldfield's contract with A-C & Firestone required him to win every time. Once on a fair grounds track somewhere in Iowa, Ab beat Barney in a three lap race and was required to forfeit his appearance money. He was also sternly warned to never let it happen again! Wink



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Originally posted by Dave Richards (WV) Dave Richards (WV) wrote:

I'll bet he wore a cup!!


If he did, it was only to protect the seat from the Brass!!

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i DON'T SEE NO SPRINGS ON THE FRONT AXLE! WHO ELSE HAS PICS, I SOLD THE ONES I HAD FROM ALLIS IN MY  AUCTION LAST FALL.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spiege Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Nov 2017 at 9:11pm
By chance would Marvin still be alive? If so, would it be possible to contact him?  I have one of the racing U's.  It is to be displayed at a museum where the Firestone homested was at, in Columbiana, OH.

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I agree with Brettphillips
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That's neat
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It looks to me like the rear tires have tread similar to what is used today on puller tractors.  Wonder if that would help in keep in going in a straight line.
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