AC Combine serial #'s & other research ?

My first question would be what the last SN of the threshing machines was... Mike

1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

So much for that theory, lol. Mike

1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers

GlenninPA wrote:

If I knew, I could be smug.

As is said, I think I know why AC started with #6848. I just wanted to see if there is a known reason out there that I am just not aware of. Was wanting to see others thoughts before I throw my theory out there.

Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners,
http://www.rumelyallis.com

Impressive Sir

Rfdeere, COME ON!!! What is the answer??? I don't know how much more I can take. I need to know now. I love things like this. Those little oddities of history that very few know about or care about. How many times I have read Norm's book, and there are still things I have overlooked.

Some more interesting history of AC combines. The AC combine story started in 1930 when AC purchased a shop license to build the "Brush Combine" from inventor Bob Fleming and promoter Guy Hall for $25,000. After many design improvements, the machine was practically reinvented. By August of 1933 the brush had been abandoned for a 5 foot wide steel bar cylinder threshing against rasp bar concaves. The separator was now mounted crosswise just behind the cylinder and provided more than 9 feet of separation and the the drives were of a V-belt variety. The machine was now known as the "Corn Belt Combine".

The new combine was introduced to the public and media during the harvest of 1934 on a LaPorte County, Indiana farm. It was reported that the machine was able to harvest at a speed of five miles per hour. In the "Allis Chalmers Agricultural Catalog" printed for 1934 the machine still carries the title "Corn Belt Combine". The 1935 catalog refers to the new combine as the "High Speed Combine". Whether it was introduced as the "Corn Belt Combine" or the "High speed Combine" is unclear. The machine went into full production in 1935. A parts book dated August 1935 has the "High Speed Combine" title:

The combine recieved the title of "All Crop Harvester" by the time this ad was printed in April 1936:

This book is dated January 1937:

When the Model 60 was added is not clear but I would venture to say when the Model 40 was introduced in late 1938. The ads below seem to support this. There is no mention of the "Model 60" in the 1937 or 1938 ad, but is present in the 1939 ad with the model 40:

1937

1938

1939

This 1940 / 1941 book has the "Model 60" designation:

If you can fill in any gaps, please comment !

Edited by Rfdeere - 07 Feb 2012 at 7:28pm

Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners,
http://www.rumelyallis.com

Ok, I have a booklet Form Number TL-264. It does not tell a year but it show an unstyled WC pulling an All-Crop on the cover. A "B" (37 or 38), WC with arch fram wf (38?), WF (37), A (36), LO (38) I looked through Norm history book to find the earliest year that any of these could have been built. Any idea what year this is from?

No, it's everything AC had to offer a farmer back in the day. The B, WC, WF, UC, U, A, M, Power Units W25, U40, E60, All-Crop Harvester, 1-4 buttom plows, disk harrows, field and row-crop cults, drills, and check row planters. No head lights are shown on the tractors. No talk of electric starters either.

Last, it shows Boulder Dam, 10,000 hp gas engines to provide power in steel mills, steam engines, and what looks to be a LO pulling downed Big, BIg, BIG trees to the mill. The front end of the tree is winched onto tracked cart then pull by the LO.

Have you read any of the patents for C.J. Scranton JR. He had many patents for Allis. I have most that I can find saved as PDF files. I tried to attach one one here bu will not work. I can e-mail them if you can open a pdf file. There are about 11 of them. He even designed a rotory in 1960 that look alot like the 90.

They should be in your email now. 11 files This will keep you reading for awhile. enjoy the Drawings

The cylinders on the combines never had rasp bars. Only 550 units were built for 1935.the first ones in 1934 were called corn belt combines. 1936 name changed to All-crop harvester. Separate clean grain elevator and unloading auger started at serial number 23801 in 1938. Quick adjust cylinder speed at serial number 86337 during 1943.

35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90

I have those too and they're really cool. I also have pictures of the new model 90 and Sp110 straight through machines Scranton designed in 1959.

35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90

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