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    Posted: 25 Aug 2019 at 1:02pm
So how strong is it? You can pretty much get anything for a Deere or IH. I live in an area of the country where AC isn't as strong and prices reflect that. Parts are one of the excuses why. One of the most recognized dealer supporters of Classic AC is close by. But that's one outfit. If I power up with 6, 7and 8000 series tractors(or a lil vintage combine) is the support going to be there in 20 years like Red and Green?

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With the internet now , parts are everywhere,, good places provide over night shipping , just depends what your operation is going to be,, these tractors have no computers on them and are very dependable,, how much of a mechanic are you tho ? Can you work on them yourself ?
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I'm as good as I need to be. The older I get the less I want to though. But my question goes beyond me. Is there going to be a big enough base of people that will deal with licensing headaches,domestic and off shore manufacturers (i.e. China) to keep quality parts available?
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20 years? A lot can happen.You think JD will still be able to supply all parts for those India
built tractors they sell today for the few that are still running in 20 years?

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Already seeing issues in older Green parts, knock off foreign made sold thru Deere under their p/n's but still knock offs nowhere near to as good as the old originals. I know of two 4020s with issues as they cannot get the Correct parts due to a Slight variance to the current supplied Deere Issued parts and end up having to fix new parts to make them functional. The manufacturers are not our friends any longer if they ever were, their objective is to sell New machines and rid the markets of our older stock.
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Deere,Agco and IH/CaseIH have competed with themselves for a long time. Guy may buy a 40,000 dollar round baler but he still pulls it with a 1066,4430 or 7045

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I don't have any Agco dealers nearby anymore, which is where I used to order my parts. But I've used about... 5 or 6 different online retailers (and a couple more I've met at tractor shows) and aftermarket support for the more common Allis stuff has been pretty good.
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Lots of good stock out in salvage yards, and pretty darn good support for the newer Allis tractors.

I would be alot less afraid of anything Agco than anything CNH, with Fiat ownership, parts support is not as important to them as it was previously, and I hear lots of complaints.

I am pretty darn impressed on parts coverage of our older Gleaners and Allis' and Whites.
Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.

If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.
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Originally posted by GM Guy GM Guy wrote:

Lots of good stock out in salvage yards, and pretty darn good support for the newer Allis tractors.

I would be alot less afraid of anything Agco than anything CNH, with Fiat ownership, parts support is not as important to them as it was previously, and I hear lots of complaints.

I am pretty darn impressed on parts coverage of our older Gleaners and Allis' and Whites.


I have a Fiat built 1973 Oliver 1365 4WD almost every part for it is available even the 4WD parts and at a reasonable price.How many 4WD drive tractors that age have parts available now? Mechanic that worked at New Holland dealership said the block in my 1973 model is basically the same as some of the new NH tractors.Bought  a new lift pump for the 1365
at the NH dealer off the shelf.
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If its 10 years old or newer all parts are available from AGCO. Its false,since we needed a hub for a 2009 7433 baler that was discontinued already.
I was told the first sentence personally in a call from Mr.Crain. Anything older is obsolete to them, or thats the feeling i got from the conversation. Unless all of us that run this stuff start making noise about reasonable quality OEM parts, there won't be any to buy. A lot of 6,7 and 8000 series tractors are at the point where they need rebuilding and some crucial parts are discontinued for them. I know people at AGCO dont like listening or listen but dont act. At some point if there are enough complaints someone will do something different because they'll start to see how its been hurt the amount of money they could be making.
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Just placed a $300 order to AGCO for a bunch of D-17 parts. All were in stock on the shelf. Not to bad for a 55 year old tractor...
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Check with Brenda at Sandy Lake Implement .  She is very involved with all NOS parts as well as aftermarket and used parts especially from Steiner Tractor Parts . Agco should make her in charge of their parts programs.
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Originally posted by Ron Eggen Ron Eggen wrote:

Check with Brenda at Sandy Lake Implement .  She is very involved with all NOS parts as well as aftermarket and used parts especially from Steiner Tractor Parts . Agco should make her in charge of their parts programs.


She must be one heck of a looker she certainly dazzles some folks on here. I can think of 3 other parts folks I’d sooner put my money on.
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Originally posted by GM Guy GM Guy wrote:



I would be alot less afraid of anything Agco than anything CNH, with Fiat ownership, parts support is not as important to them as it was previously, and I hear lots of complaints.

I am pretty darn impressed on parts coverage of our older Gleaners and Allis' and Whites.


Agree 100% CNH is horrible with parts support. Lots of the CIH articulated tractors are one tranny part away from a fence row.    I can think of one part that Agco, aftermarket, obsolete parts couldn’t get and in the end we were able to repair the original.
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Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

With the internet now , parts are everywhere,, good places provide over night shipping , just depends what your operation is going to be,, these tractors have no computers on them and are very dependable,, how much of a mechanic are you tho ? Can you work on them yourself ?
 
Can a crank pulley for an XT 190 diesel be sourced ?? I am talking new or at least generic, not a salvage part that may or may not better than what's on a machine.
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The parts market is strong with the internet. question is can you get a rep when you call that knows what your talking about. that is the problem. not the parts.
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I have a small fleet of A-C tractors. I am amazed at the new parts available through AGCO. It's now an hour and a half of driving, one way, to get to the nearest AGCO dealers but they continue to stock a surprising number of parts and can order almost anything I need. There are also parts suppliers who advertise on the Forum. And plenty of others like DJS and Bill Deppe. Look and you will find. Dan.
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Where's your closest dealer Dan?
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FREEDGUY,is the rubber getting bad? There is that place that rebuild them.Been mentioned on here several times.
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I usually go to E.J. Kehrer in Albers, IL. Great, old fashioned dealer. Rohlf's Greenview, IL. (north of Springfield) location is the other that's an hour and a half away. Rohlf's other location is in Hartsburg, north of Lincoln. Kuhn's is in Arthur and Gibson City. Both farther away but they ship. A friend who has a D21 was recently at Kuhn's and was very happy with their in stock parts and service knowledge. A father - son operation south of Litchfield has gone John Deere except for their Gleaner combine. They get their parts at Kuhn's. I visited with some folks at the AGCO exhibit at the Farm Progress Show this past week. They said that they'll keep manufacturing parts as long as we keep buying them. I told them that they need more dealers. They told me that I was preaching to the choir. I'm guessing that AGCO's European hierarchy doesn't think North America is all that important. Sad. They had a significant portion of North American ag. sales and let it slip away. Or pushed it away in favor of global sales outside the U.S. and Canada.
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Yeah,I was looking at the map and you're in a tuff spot. Dittamore's in Teutopolis is good about stock for the older AC's because there are a bunch of dairy farms in their area. They also run on the high side of pricing.
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Originally posted by exSW exSW wrote:

If I power up with 6, 7and 8000 series tractors(or a lil vintage combine) is the support going to be there in 20 years like Red and Green?

no one can predict the future. If I could, it wouldn't be 20 years ahead. It would be just to the day of the next big lottery drawing...

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Thanks, Steve.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

FREEDGUY,is the rubber getting bad? There is that place that rebuild them.Been mentioned on here several times.
Possibly, I can't seem to get the fan/alternator belt tight enough to stop the NEW/AGCO belt from bouncing Confused . My question was to the guy that said "everything" was available via Agco ( which has been very good with most parts) or the internet ??
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

FREEDGUY,is the rubber getting bad? There is that place that rebuild them.Been mentioned on here several times.
Possibly, I can't seem to get the fan/alternator belt tight enough to stop the NEW/AGCO belt from bouncing Confused . My question was to the guy that said "everything" was available via Agco ( which has been very good with most parts) or the internet ??


May not be available via Agco but the dealer I deal with has sources, salvage, or guys like Ivan ha e bailed me out
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The AGCO dealer in Albers, IL., E.J. Kehrer Farm Supply, has found parts for me from a salvage yard. The partsman is very knowledgeable.
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We run Allis on our small gentlemen's farm and have had great luck with parts. They seem expensive but no more crazy than John Deere. You get what you pay for in life, I feel.

Also, people think all John Deere equipment is bullet-proof for life on parts. Not always so. Our John Deere 1450 is dead on arrival for parts. This is an excellent tractor for us but all parts are NLA, due to being manufactured in Japan. However, I've found a few parts through Duane Korleski in PA and his network of friends that buy up old JD dealership parts.

Williams Farm Equipment in Charlotte, MI has done great for us over the years for Agco/Allis aftermarket parts. Ask for Bill or Bob in parts. They know what they are talking about and are very customer-service oriented.

Also, try Shoup online for parts, too. They have many parts, too. Good outfit.
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