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AC 220 compared to other brands in 1970

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    Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 9:45pm
Year is  1970 - performance comparison of AC220 to what the competion was building in the 1970.
eg  JD 4620. Does anyone have the Nebr. tests reports for these tractors.
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you can check hear they have the easiest way to look them up
 


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i like old tractors of all colors
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Anyone farm with these tractors when new to give a comparison report .
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we have a 220 great tractor
2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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Looks like the 220 would do the same work at 1/2 gal/hr of fuel less.

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220 complete test report
 
 
4620 complete test
 
220 Manual
    Max PTO HP at rated rpm - 135.95. Economy 15.66 HP Hrs/Gal
 
    Max drawbar HP at rated rpm - 117.21. Economy 13.54 HP Hrs/Gal
 
    426 cid turbo
    Bare weight 24.5x32 singles - 12,160#
    8 speeds forward 2 reverse
    Fuel tank - 51 gal
 
 
4620 SyncroRange Manual with syncronizers)
    Max PTO HP at rated rpm - 135.76. Economy 14.70 HP Hrs/Gal
 
    Max drawbar HP at rated rpm - 115.75. Economy 12.66 HP Hrs/Gal
 
    404 cid turbo
    Bare weight with 20.8x38 duals - 14,800#
    8 speeds forward 2 reverse
    Fuel tank - 50 gal


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Looks fairly even on the PTO.  With ballast the 220 pretty much delivered the goods compared to the JD.
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Notice the economy difference. The 220 will do more work on quite a bit less fuel. I couldn't find torque rise value but I'd put my money on the 220 to have better torque rise.
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The 4620 in real life was no comparison to a 220. Had one, been there done that kinda thing, 220 would eat a 5020, and would put the fear of god into a 6030.
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The 220 from the factory would put out near it's Nebraska hp.  The Deere tractors of that era wouldn't come close.  If you increased the fuel to the Deere's to get Nebraska hp, your fuel economy really went into the dumpster and engine durability would suffer.
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From what I can recall of our field demonstrations back then, there was nothing that came close to a Two-Twenty for field performance.  Heck, the One-Ninety XT diesels were outperforming IH 1206's.  Don't remember much JD competetion other than 4020's weren't close either.
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the 4020 should not be close you are talking about a 92hp tractor
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Originally posted by ky wonder ky wonder wrote:

the 4020 should not be close you are talking about a 92hp tractor

I think he was referring to when they demoed 190 XTs.
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I don' t have to read the Nebraska tets. I farm with these tractors everyday.  Ive got a 220, 4620, 1256, G708, 2150, 97, 2255. All FWA's, and there is none of them that have the power, the old 220 has. Every one of them have something I like about them. An employee of mine said it best. The rest of those tractors are OK, but none of them are fit to bring water to the old 220. The 4620 has been a very good machine but not much power.
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Originally posted by TerrySWIA TerrySWIA wrote:

I don' t have to read the Nebraska tets. I farm with these tractors everyday.  Ive got a 220, 4620, 1256, G708, 2150, 97, 2255. All FWA's, and there is none of them that have the power, the old 220 has. Every one of them have something I like about them. An employee of mine said it best. The rest of those tractors are OK, but none of them are fit to bring water to the old 220. The 4620 has been a very good machine but not much power.


I always like the looks of the G708-------got any pictures??
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