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A "Retired" Police Vehicle ??

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    Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 7:19pm
Has/would any of you guys purchase a retired  "cruiser " ?? 
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yea, thats what i want... a vehicle with 100,000 miles that has spent 10,000 hours setting at the side of the road idling. 
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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 Are you SURE it has a 1K on it ?? What about a municipality work truck(union) that came up for sale WinkWink ??
What's worse??, the MILES or ENGINE hours OuchOuch ??
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Fire Trucks have low mileage and high engine hours. Buy a Snow Plow truck if you want something to work on! Police Cars are maintained but driven hard. Here in Michigan most Police Departments have SUV vehicles as the roads are so bad they beat Cars suspensions to death!
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Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

Fire Trucks have low mileage and high engine hours. Buy a Snow Plow truck if you want something to work on! Police Cars are maintained but driven hard. Here in Michigan most Police Departments have SUV vehicles as the roads are so bad they beat Cars suspensions to death!
I DO own a former "plow truck" ( never DREAMED that I would stoop to that level),thankfully, nothing "major" for repairs in 98K miles, and WHY does a CITY police department need a 4x4 SUV ?? Yes, for some SAD reason the local "IN-TOWN" buggies are SUV's for some reason ConfusedConfused
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Manufacturers have Police packages for their SUV`s and it is easier to haul their gear or a K9 in a SUV. Michigan State Police and the Commercial Enforcement Officers drive two wheel drive SUV like a Chevy Tahoe. I have seen some new cruisers but more SUV's in our area.i wouldn't want one no matter what Department had it. Too many hours of operation. And by Snow Plow I meant an MDOT or County Road Commission Truck.
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Thanks for the info and clarification on the plow trucks Big smile
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

Fire Trucks have low mileage and high engine hours. Buy a Snow Plow truck if you want something to work on! Police Cars are maintained but driven hard. Here in Michigan most Police Departments have SUV vehicles as the roads are so bad they beat Cars suspensions to death!

I DO own a former "plow truck" ( never DREAMED that I would stoop to that level),thankfully, nothing "major" for repairs in 98K miles, and WHY does a CITY police department need a 4x4 SUV ?? Yes, for some SAD reason the local "IN-TOWN" buggies are SUV's for some reason ConfusedConfused


Are you that clueless?
How else are they supposed to get around in a snowstorm?
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I believe they use SUV's now because nobody makes full size cars. I would be reluctant to buy a former cruiser and many other vehicles they often see hard service.
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you can usually tell if the retired law enforcement vehicles have been abused by looking inside them. i have bought used ones in the past and had very good luck with them, some had up to 300,000 miles on them. a fellow up the road from me, that's all he buys, they are cheap to buy and if one konks out, he has a few others for parts! lol, and as Dar says...most cruisers are worthless in the snow, mainly because most departments won't buy snow tires for their cruisers. most are prolly maintained better than the public maintains their vehicles. our local sheriff's dept has mostly 4x4 pickups and suv's, as our county is very hilly. if the suv's or other police type vehicles have the police package in them, they are heavier built in some areas, but not all parts will interchange on them from civilian vehicles. just like anything else....buyer beware! 
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I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. A good friend has bought 4 and 3 have been great cars the only one that hasn't is an ex police chief car, its an all black police car without any of the tell tale external police parts it is very low mileage . only 50 k for a 2005 crown vic. has an electrical glitch so it stops running intermenitaly. when my Dad work for the state I when thru the shop to get to his office the state patrol cars are very well maintained and sell for more than I'm willing to spend, so I've never won an auction.
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Retired cruiser? In Iowa DOT They get written for replacement at 120-145K on odometer, then its another year before replaced. But have spent 4 x10 hour days weekly running whether driven or parked and most set outside. AND depends on WHO drove it if well maintained or not. The IDOT Garages haven't done maintenance on them for 20+ yrs, that is done at low bid service stations. 
 A lot of city or county units aren't purchased with the Law Enforcement Pkg, so are actually just another off the shelf vehicle. 
IMHO, I'd buy a vehicle from a new car dealer lot at higher price any time. IF you don't know who drove it, it's kinda risky. 

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And as for what’s been done in that back seat! No thanks.
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MO vehicles are not maintained any level of good, nor driven as Granny only on Sundays, are hard pressed, ditch jumping abused and reused.  NO Way I would drop coin on one.

Used to be ONCE UPON A TIME in the Mid 20th Century that City and some localized State machines were maintained to a Inth Degree as had cash to pay for garages and crews to man them where no expense was held back to keep them up.  As of Late 20th taxes waned, expenses Sky Rocketed, city planners had to reschedule funds to 'Other' more pressing concerns and EEOC essentially shot the garages run by the Cities an States in the foot.  Expensive to maintain electronic controls and no one to understand them the machines were and are sent to private concerns for maintenance that may or may not get adequately performed but then the powers that be do not have a responsibility, just a finger to point at these private concerns as stealing OUR tax moneys that these terds allow.


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I remember being at a local tire shop and a State Trooper came in with a tire with a slow leak. Kid working there broke the tire down and found a piece of wire in it. Kid told the owner who said put a new tire, on State Police won't run repaired tires in case of a high speed blowout!
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

And as for what’s been done in that back seat! No thanks.

Puking, pooping, peeing, bleeding, and who knows what manner of diseases were carried there!!!
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I have a story about a local drunk the Sherrifs Department arrested for being drunk and disorderly. What he did in the backseat of the Patrol Car has been described in the previous post!
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most of the back seats are taken out and a plastic one installed just for the reasons stated above. it's part of the cage package, and it's easier to hose out. when they are selected for trading in, the real back seats are put back in. as for the tires, they don't run tires like we run, they are special made in case pursuits happen. made stronger. your local tire shops do not carry them, each state has a warehouse that they stay in until any department needs one. that's also why very few agencies will put mud/snow tires on their cruisers, those tires are WAY expensive. another reason some agencies are going with SUV's/pickups, they are civilian and rules say NO pursuits in them. they can then get around alot better with the 4x4 and snow tires.  fords police cars/SUV's/trucks, all rack up miles while just sitting idling. it won't show on the odometer, but will inside the vehicles puter. that's the miles the dealers look at first for warranty info. not sure if the civilian vehicles are the same way. the newer ford SUV's that you see that are police vehicles now, after a couple years on them the steering will lock up, no warning, could lock up sitting over night or while driving. caused by an electronic sensor, but...you can't fix it by just replacing the sensor, you hafta replace the entire front anything that has to do with the steering at a cost of thousands of dollars. i heard of 3 now that have come down with this problem so far, thankful they were not being driven at the time. again, i don't know if the civilian models are like that either. mym last police vehicle i owned was an Impala, it had over 300,000 miles on it and still ran great. 
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I work on a lot KHP vehicles. Mostly Chargers and Tahoe's. Tahoe's are 2wd, most Chargers are AWD. Trooper vehicles, no city cops.
They can go through brakes in 15k miles. Troopers run them for 50K miles and send them down the line and get a new one. All very well maintained.
One ran over a motorcycle. Had 5k miles on it. Had to go to the dealer. Too new and couldn't get parts.

Highway assist trucks are maintained per schedule and are run for up to 200k from what I have seen. Anything that needs to be done. 
ATF now and again. Not very often.
I wouldn't own any of them because I know they have had the piss run out of them.
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The plastic seat is a good idea.

However, they are not all like that. I spent all of my grow-up years with a cruiser parked in the yard, never saw one like that, and dad never spoke of such a thing. Also, have ridden in a MSP car a couple times (front seat as a courtesy) and had a good look around, nothing like that.

So that’s a maybe/ maybe not type deal.

Last winter, the wife pulled up to a Chevy SUV MSP vehicle parked on the shoulder. Being a nurse she was checking to see if he was ok medically. He was stuck in the wet snow on the shoulder, two wheel drive. Said he got sucked into it while driving. I asked her if she wrote him a ticket for driving too fast for conditions? They did that to my son when that happened to him. Then went away and left him on the left side of the road up against the guard cables for hours while he awaited a ride.
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Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

I remember being at a local tire shop and a State Trooper came in with a tire with a slow leak. Kid working there broke the tire down and found a piece of wire in it. Kid told the owner who said put a new tire, on State Police won't run repaired tires in case of a high speed blowout!
City of Des Moines does that too. They patch the tire and when they have extras they sell them to the public.
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