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BLee Mn 
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:02pm |
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Not mine , I wish it was, seen it on ebay, 3rd one built , what do you think it will sell for? Id post a link but not that smart
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Robert Mull Georgia
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:08pm |
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:20pm |
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As soft as the market has been for tractors, he might not get a bid for $15,000????
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:40pm |
Well it sold for $12,500 at the auction. So $15,000 ? Who knows. Found this link to some of the auction results:
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:45pm |
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Would like to see a S/N first lol. I could say I have thevery last of first WD45 built and thats all it is. saying.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 8:52pm |
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That is #3, I looked at it at the sale and this is definately it and the serial matches. It has some rather unique features as with any tractor. As I've said before, I may not be able to tell my twins apart at times but every tractor is different.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 9:03pm |
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Well it sold for $12,500 at the auction. So $15,000 ? Who knows. |
Well if a guy had $15,000 to spend he could have bought it a year and a half ago for $13,000 right. I'm just saying the market has been soft, though not so much on rare or oddball tractors and this might just be somebodies Dream Tractor who knows? I wonder where #1 is?
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 9:10pm |
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After reading the link, I still kick myself for not going for that sale. As I remember, Mr Nutsch passed away a few months after the sale. I guess it's better to still be around to see your collection sell instead of your heirs.
I think I would start the bidding a little lower to get it started, at 15, no one may want to bid. My opinion only.
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JW in MO
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 9:29pm |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Well if a guy had $15,000 to spend he could have bought it a year and a half ago for $13,000 right. I'm just saying the market has been soft, though not so much on rare or oddball tractors and this might just be somebodies Dream Tractor who knows?
I wonder where #1 is? |
I believe #1 is in Kansas also.
It was one tractor away from my dream tractor, a day I hope to always remember.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 11:10pm |
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If my father inlaw saw this "A", he would also the "B" body Mopar thrown in.
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Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 11:12pm |
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Dang it, its late. It should read---he would also WANT the "B" body Mopar thrown in.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 6:18am |
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Hard to say what it will bring. As a rule tractors 1 and last one built carry a heavy premium but anything else is just another in a long line. For my money I 'd rather have any number of better deals around but who knows?? For a farmer a couple semi loads of corn will provide the cash, travel expences with some left over to buy something to calm down the ole woman and will hardly be missed come time to tally up the farm profits for 2011.
Edited by Butch(OH) - 21 Dec 2011 at 6:19am
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 6:35am |
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I am sure that the #1 A is in Canada. It was found in Colorado When Larrry Swenson found that herd of A's that mine was in. If I was looking for an A, as nice and straight as that one is, I would consider it. As an owner, though, I hope the value rises. I probably won't own another one. Dave.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 8:36am |
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no I am wrong, it was the last A that was found in Colorado. Dave
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Larry(OH)
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 10:19am |
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Butch, i think you hit it right on the head
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 12:17pm |
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Posted: 21 Dec 2011 at 10:46pm |
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David Maddux, do you know where in Colorado the A's were? Hope they weren't next door to me. Not that it matters at this point.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 6:04am |
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 1:25pm |
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Butch made me laugh!! He's a sharp guy. Got a finger on the pulse.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 1:36pm |
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Butch ,whats your "REAL OPINION" .ROTFLMAO !!!
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BLee Mn
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 2:37pm |
Butch(OH) wrote:
Hard to say what it will bring. As a rule tractors 1 and last one built carry a heavy premium but anything else is just another in a long line. For my money I 'd rather have any number of better deals around but who knows?? For a farmer a couple semi loads of corn will provide the cash, travel expences with some left over to buy something to calm down the ole woman and will hardly be missed come time to tally up the farm profits for 2011. |
Actually, would take more than a "couple loads". Was wondering, if farming that profitable, why in the heck wouldnt Everyone Farm? I must be doing something wrong!!!
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 8:54pm |
Yea Blee I always like the smartass comments aimed at farmers,we have it made and always have..........People have no clue.
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Posted: 22 Dec 2011 at 9:07pm |
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Farming is the most expensive hobby i have,, next to collecting tractors.. oh well,, it keeps me digging in the cold cold ground,,$15,000.00 is half a 220 fwA, they're might be cheap yet.. passed up A's for half close to home last year,, definitely on the list though! positive it will bring more satisfaction than money in the bank....
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 6:21am |
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Free today are :Feeling's ,Emotion's , Opinion's Forsale today : a A Allis Chalmers trator.Take your pick .LMAO !!!!!!
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 6:47am |
Although I have been known to take a poke on here now and then I am floored that my comment was taken as a slam on farmers????. To some people $16K aint a lot of money, is to me. So all may know, nobody is happier than I that farming has been profitable that last couple years, around here VERY profitable and they are spending money like they won the lottery, I am happy they can do it. If your operations have not been profitable I feel sorry for you and sorry you took the comment as a slam.
Edited by Butch(OH) - 23 Dec 2011 at 6:51am
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 7:23am |
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Butch, I understand your perspective. I got a new perspective yesterday. $240/ acre for fertilizer and chemicals for next years crop. Add another $100/ acre for seed and the tractor budget gets pretty slim. OTOH. 150 bu/ acre for $5.50 an acre is $825 gross income per acre.
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 7:36am |
So then, based on $825 gross per acre, deduct $340 in seed and fert.
If you take $485 (This would not include fuel cost and maintenance overhead, or even LABOR).
Multiple that by 50 acres $24,250
Then, figure you just bought that 50 acres @ $5,500 an acre... $275,000
Thats a bare minimum payback of 11.3 years. And thats NOT with interest to the bank.
That 50 acres would be probably paid off in a 30 year or more program.
Don't know about you guys, but 30 years is a long time.
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 4:53pm |
Don(MI) wrote:
So then, based on $825 gross per acre, deduct $340 in seed and fert.
If you take $485 (This would not include fuel cost and maintenance overhead, or even LABOR).
Multiple that by 50 acres $24,250
Then, figure you just bought that 50 acres @ $5,500 an acre... $275,000
Thats a bare minimum payback of 11.3 years. And thats NOT with interest to the bank.
That 50 acres would be probably paid off in a 30 year or more program.
Don't know about you guys, but 30 years is a long time.
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Now figure it at $10,000 per acre (have seen some ground sell for that or more). How will that ever pay off ? Don't make since.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 5:16pm |
It sold...............
1 bid
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 9:38pm |
You know it wouldn't cash flow at $2500 an acre, then it wouldn't cash flow at $5500 now it won't cash flow at $10,000 plus yet somebody keeps buying it. I never thought I'd have bought $4500 an acre land, but the circumstances happened that made it work. I wouldn't have belived that it could have doubled in value in 4 years after we bought it. Never thought that I'd briefly consider bidding on 40 acres that I thought might bring $8,000 (call it irrational exuberance, LOL, but it was across the road from my house.) it brought $9700 BTW. I farm, I'd like to have more land but the competition is fierce. I have several neighbors that are big time operators 2000 to 5000 acres or more. One young man, has no problem buying a $15,000 tractor, he has a nice Massey Ferguson 4WD and an 1155 and a Massey Harris 55 and an 1155 pulling tractor, not to mention the restored cars and many other toys. None of this is used for farming they have late model John Deere stuff tor that. Like Butch was trying to say it depends on the circumstances but there are a lot of farmers that have BIG money to throw around right now. We know that farming is cyclical and we're probably near the top of the cycle. Better hang on to that cash.
Edited by Dave in il - 30 Dec 2011 at 9:40pm
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