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ac55tractor 
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Posted: 17 Jul 2014 at 8:38am |
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Hi everyone, I have a 1955 Allis - Chalmers B.
I am considering removing my tall muffler and replacing it with an under the hood muffler. Before I get too winded. Does anyone know if I will run into any obstacles with this before I buy one? As I look at the under the hood muffler the exhaust pipe comes out on an angle and the top pipe is crimped. It looks as if it wouldn't take a rain cap very easily. I would appreciate any thoughts on this.
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Darb210
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Posted: 17 Jul 2014 at 9:18am |
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I got one for my C from Sandy Lake Implement & loved it, I used the tractor mowing & have quite a few trees. I used some heat matt under the hood to keep the paint from peeling. The end is pinched, so you are correct on not easily putting on a rain cap. An old can of peas works good for a rain cap!
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Posted: 17 Jul 2014 at 10:01am |
Ditto on the heat tape. I bent the pinch in out and out a ran cap on mine.
With the lower exhaust it does come back to your face so beware of that.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 6:21am |
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There's a Stanley out there in the aftermarket that doesn't fit under the hood the B,IB,C,CA models, but it will fit under the hood of an RC. The RC having a much higher hood will net you the clearance needed. On the B/C models, that particular muffler will not fit because there is no hood clearance period. You can't even install the hood! Also, it doesn't come up through the hole in the hood correctly. Way off. I had this problem quite a few years back when I was doing my IB over. I did luck out and it did fit under the hood of my RC that's why I know...
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Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 7:16am |
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I had 1 laying in the shed for several years, took it off, after 2 or 3 hours of running the little tractor I got sick of the exhaust being blown in my face. Yes actually makes you sick.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 7:54am |
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There are two different oval mufflers, one for the WC, used on the side manifold, and a different style for the B-C. The one for the B-C is angled to provide hood clearance, but the heat shield is still needed to protect the paint.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 10:00am |
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I cut off a short piece of the inlet and extend the slot to get more clearance. Never noticed the exhaust in the face.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2016 at 3:56pm |
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Hi Everyone, I know it's been quite some time since I first posted here. A while ago I purchased an under hood muffler for my A/C B. I tapped the cramped end round with a ball peen and put a rain-cap on the end of the muffler. I am not running into issues with my paint pealing. Maybe it runs cooler that way. I read somewhere that the quicker that you can get air in and out of an engine the more efficient it will run. That is why some guys port and polish out there cylinder heads. Here is the thing that keeps coming to mind though. I often wonder if the muffler was designed with the crimp to create back pressure in the engine. I'm not totally sure about this concept of back pressure. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance. Steve..........
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Posted: 19 Mar 2016 at 9:36pm |
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I think I read something about the crimp being there for some reason but I can't remember what it was. As for the rain cap and exhaust in the face problem, how about putting a 90 degree elbow on the top with the end pointed to the left to get the exhaust more away from you? Cutting the end of the elbow at an angle with the short side on the bottom would help deep rain out without a cap too. This would add much height and might help.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2016 at 10:29pm |
The crimped muffler is there to force the fumes up in the air and not back in your face. A clean running engine will not make you sick from the exhaust unless your in a closed building. Bob
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Posted: 21 Mar 2016 at 8:42am |
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I suggest you empty that can of peas before you it it on the muffler
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Posted: 21 Mar 2016 at 9:18am |
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I have had the under hood mufflers on 2 Bs and 2 IBs, never had any paint problem and didn't have any sort of heat shield. The crimped end is there to increase the velocity of the exhaust to force it up so it's not in your face, it worked for me.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2016 at 11:02am |
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I'm of the same opinion on the muffler deal. That exhaust comes right back at you and after 2 or 3 hours of mowing you've forgotten what clean air smells like. Clean engine or not.
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