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bleeds orange ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2012 Location: mt. vision, ny Points: 692 |
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Started combine up to jockey equipment around in shed. Noticed that water was dripping out of crankcase tube. Never did it before. Machine has sat since November whenI finished corn. Always checked oil and had no signs of coolant in oil pan. This issue is definitely new since sitting. So I shut machine off and opened the drain on oil pan and maybe half a cup of coolant came out before oil started flowing. Where should I start to fix this issue.
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bleeds orange ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2012 Location: mt. vision, ny Points: 692 |
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Machine has ran cool on the coolant guage all year. Even today when I started it It was running long enough to move temp guage and it didn't show it was hot. No coolant out of overflow tube either.
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MACK ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664 |
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Sounds like sleeve orings. Very Selden find water in oil by sight. They will evaporate water while running In field. Pull breather hose off valve cover. If it looks like snotty milk, your sleeve orings are leaking. MACK
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Adam Stratton ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SW MO Points: 1363 |
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Had an L2 do the same thing. I put some stop leak in it and ran it a bit and seemed to stop leaking. Thought all was good till it threw a rod a few hours later. If I had it to do over again I would have tore it down, fixed the oring issue (I assume that was my problem also) and replaced the crank bearings.
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21725 |
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This is going to be tough to accurately diagnose because it's in a combine. First of all, when you checked the motor oil before starting, you could have a gallon of coolant in the oil and the dipstick will look fine, other than it should have read overfull. Coolant ALWAYS settles to the very bottom, until you start the engine and mix it with the oil. If this was a tractor, we can easily remove the oil pan and connect a radiator tester and pressurize the cooling system and watch to see where the coolant is coming from. If it was mine, it would get parked in a place where I could remove the engine if needed. Then, I would drain the oil and remove both engine oil filters and leave them off. Connect a radiator pump and place 12 psi of pressure and check it every day or three times a day and keep it at 12 psi. If coolant starts dripping from the oil filter base, it's a bad oil cooler. If it drips out of the oil drain hose, it's internal. Leave the drain plug installed to let it collect coolant if there is any and check it by removing the plug each time. Remove the oil fill cap on top of the engine and see if it is clean ?? no shaving cream...because if there is shaving cream, it's been leaking while you were using the engine. No shaving cream means coolant has gotten into the oil while sitting cold.
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SteveM C/IL ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8567 |
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Uncle blew radiator hose in harvest on N5 and got it hot. Cooled replaced and finished. Next summer moving things around oil checked way over full. Was sleeve orings. Put 6 cyl kits and head gaseket on and used it a couple more years before trading.
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21725 |
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The main thing to remember about antifreeze in the motor oil is, the coolant is terribly destructive to main and rod bearings !!! Get enough of it in there over some time and heavy loads on the engine, and really bad things can happen.
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5087 |
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Seems to me extreme cold can cause coolant leaks in places that don't normally leak. Hoses, and orings are affected by the extreme cold temps. I call it cold seep! lol!
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Lynn Marshall ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2362 |
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Unfortunately, you're likely in for a complete engine overhaul. Probably a sleeve seal leaking and a scored piston to boot.
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