8030

I just became a member of this forum. Was told I needed to ask the question I asked in the AG talk forum hear. I repeat it and hopefully add more beneficial info. My dad and own around 350 acres. Him around 250 me lil more then 100. He rents most of his out and rents himself about 30 acres. Yeah I don't get that either but he does that. I say he dabbles now in farming. Gives him something to do now. He's 72. I rent all mine out. I'm 40 and work at a case ih ag dealership as a parts manager. So I don't have much fun time on the farm. Fun time is what I call working on the farm. It relaxes me. Anyway we have 2 tractors. John Deere 5055 I think. And a 2680 Massey Ferguson. The Deere is about 50hp, open station, 2wheel drive, and had that stupid Regen system on it. The Massey is around a 100hp, cab, fwa, and sometimes a pain the service. Both good tractors but we don't need two. I'm not a fan of the hydraulics of the Massey. I would like to get rid of both for one. We have a 10ft rhino blade, a 12ft I think 500 ih disk and another light duty disk. A kinzee 6 row with splitters planter. 10ft bush hog 3pt hitch bush hog. I would like a 7120 magnum but too much money and usually way too many hours for me. I can't stand the 86 series of ih tractors and don't really want an 88 series either. We have had many Deere tractors. 4240, 4430, 4440, 4630,4840, oh and of course a 4020. So really do want one if those either. Although we have many of Deere dealers around. Not much for small frame tractors. We had a 220 open station tractor when I was growing up and we actually farmed more. Had to sale for a cab tractor. I have way too many allergies. Hated to see it go. Great tractor. Would like another but whew they ask for then things now. My question is a 8030 power shift or power director a good tractor. I'd say 2wheel drive. Hydraulics good? Good cab? Good ride? Dependable - yes that depends on condition of tractor. Any Gremlins? Pros cons anything is most appreciated. Thank you

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In their day probably the best tractors built !!

Welcome to the forum. It helps to have a good agco parts guy that wants to help you with allis parts, and stay on the forum for support

We have an 8010, 8050 and 8070 FWA. All 3 are powershift. In my opinion they were the best tractors of their time. We have had very good luck with ours.

The 8000 was power shift was not cheapened, it was upgraded, 7/16 bolts to hold the gear on the C2 clutch pack instead of 3/8, and 5/8 instead of 1/2 inch up front on the drive gear for the countershaft.  The only thing cheapened was on the 8010, one planetary went from four pinion to three.

I have an 8030 2WD now had a 8030 FWA have run 8050 and 8070, my Dad has an 8010 FWA.  The 8030 is a tractor that will work  I pull a 12 row 30" corn planter and it has no trouble doing so what so ever.  Your implements you listed are not in the league of this tractor. I think you will find it not the most fuel efficient option, but it gives you potential to expand get bigger implements work more acres.  Mine has had its issues but with 7000+ hrs what doesn't?  I like the power director transmission better than the powershift, the pd gives you a lot more speed selections than the ps.  The cab is the best out there, until maybe, the steiger cab on the 91xx tractors came along, in my opinion.  I don't like the 86 international cab or 88 for that matter, way to difficult to get into and out of, and yes I have run them thousands of hours.  I wish you the best of luck in picking out a tractor

77cruiser wrote: this is just my rant here. they are hard to get in and out of. the ride is horrible. great motor but grind till you find transmission. again my thoughts.

I’m not sure what your running but it’s not an 8000 series Allis. If so you have something in the transmission not adjusted correctly. And I can’t imagine anything that big being any easier to get in and out of. I have 3 and I regularly spend 18 hours plus a day in them during planting season. I have eaten breakfast lunch and dinner in an 8010 planting beans. It’s a luxury hotel room on top of a tractor. show me something nicer from the 80s era.

Run an 86 series ih an you'll know why he doesn't want one. Most ass backwards designed abomination I've ever driven. They didn't even put the doors on the right way and they ride like a lumber wagon. Only good aspect of them are that the engine is reliable. That's it.

I was referring to the 86 series ih tractors

Most of the PS failures I have seen have to do with the bolts holding the gears to A1 and C2 clutch packs working loose and shearing off, these are 1/2 inch  on the A1 pack and 3/8 on the C2 pack on 7000 series tractors, 8000 series uses 5/8 and 7/16, I have never seen them shear on an 8000,  I know of several 8000's with 10,000 hours on original PS transmissions.   There is nothing other than the 8010 3 pinion middle planetary, that I am aware of that makes a 7000 series PS better than an 8000.