8030 PD input shaft removal

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   I have an 8030 with a broken high side input shaft, I have the tractor split and the PD clutches removed, my question is will the input shaft come out the front of the transmission or do you have to remove the transmission and dissemble it to get the shaft out? Thanks for any help!

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brouillettefarms Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Location: Vincennes Points: 326	Post Options Post Reply Quote brouillettefarms Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 8030 PD input shaft removal Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 7:43am
	I have an 8030 with a broken high side input shaft, I have the tractor split and the PD clutches removed, my question is will the input shaft come out the front of the transmission or do you have to remove the transmission and dissemble it to get the shaft out? Thanks for any help!

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Lynn Marshall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2349	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lynn Marshall Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 1:25pm
	Technically the transmission is supposed to be taken out so that the countershaft can be lowered in the front to allow the input shaft to be removed. I have cheated a couple of times on older machines by doing what's in the pictures but I'm not sure that I would do it on a nice low houred machine.

Ron(AB) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Location: Alberta Points: 959	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ron(AB) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 6:04pm
	Pull the trans.
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DougG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8256	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 6:51pm
	Just gotta ask- whats the small broken gear in the picture, dont look like much material involved in that one

Lynn Marshall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2349	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lynn Marshall Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 8:56pm
	The "broken gear" in the picture isn't broken at all. I purposely cut that piece out with a grinding wheel so that it would slip past the countershaft gear when I reinstalled it. It was a good used shaft from salvage. That way ,you don't have to remove the transmission. What has been removed is a small piece of the shift engagement teeth. Now it is made similar to the 100 series and also a lot of the D series. That input shaft is also the high gear in the transmission. I feel that there is still plenty of contact for the shifting coupler to engage and not be a problem. I've done this on a couple of tractors and to my knowledge, they are still in use. The biggest problem with doing it this way is cutting the old broken gear out while still in the transmission with the least amount of sl*g going in places that you don't want it.

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Dec 2020 at 9:09pm
	Lynn, I have done the same thing. Don't hurt a thing. Some times the old gear can be broken with a big hammer and punch. MACK

NEVER green Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 8232	Post Options Post Reply Quote NEVER green Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2021 at 10:24am
	I think you boys misunderstood him, he said High input shaft, right??? If its just high, remove the bolts holding the high housing to the tranny, remove 2 1/2 inch nut and countershaft gear will come off with the high housing. No need to touch low input or take off tranny.
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Lynn Marshall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2349	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lynn Marshall Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2021 at 2:38pm
	Well crap, you are more than correct. I don't know what I was thinking about, especially since I just had an 8070 apart to change out the large ball bearing on the low shaft. Sorry for any misinformation. I will say, that I don't ever recall seeing a breakage of that high side hollow shaft. That would have to be a rare occurrence. The low side breaking has been known to give some trouble,but I've only seen it in the 7000 series. When it breaks, it can sometimes gall to the high side. That will in turn,cause the engine to stall once the clutch is released. Later production tractors had an oil seal in the high side hollow shaft for a better oil cushion between the two shaft assemblies.

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21417	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jan 2021 at 3:12pm
	I saw that too from the original poster and assumed he twisted off the LOW range shaft and just called it the wrong thing. Never seen a high range shaft failure and when galled I always chucked them in a lathe and opened them up a bit so they would never do that again.