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exSW 
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 Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 6:34pm |
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exSW is working on a 7010, virtually the same. low boost and black smoke tells me either the turbo is junk, or as simple as a boost leak, missing plug, or blown intake gasket. |
I'm going to try the cheap stuff first. Off to the pressure washer in the AM.
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Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 3:10pm |
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Well,she's clean. But there's nothing obvious. The crossover from the intake manifold to the turbo does appear to be RTVed up at the manifold but that doesn't mean it leaks. Is there a way to pinpoint boost leaks?
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Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 5:19pm |
exSW wrote:
Well,she's clean. But there's nothing obvious. The crossover from the intake manifold to the turbo does appear to be RTVed up at the manifold but that doesn't mean it leaks. Is there a way to pinpoint boost leaks? |
Like maybe take a proper sized PVC cap tap an air chuck in it. Then plug it into the fresh air inlet for the turbo , pressurize the system and listen.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 5:26am |
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So many worry about the 8010 and it’s power. It’s a small block in a big chassis. I compare it to a 350 in a 2 ton truck. You can get to elevator but your not going win a race there. I have a 8010 with 20 pd tranny. And I to worried about it when purchased. I have since stripped it of useless weight. No weights. No fluid. Removed extra fuel tank. Removed muffler under hood. Tractor pulls baler a lot nicer now and runs cooler. Love the 301 for fuel economy but like the old trucks got take your time and enjoy the day.
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 11:49am |
exSW wrote:
exSW wrote:
Well,she's clean. But there's nothing obvious. The crossover from the intake manifold to the turbo does appear to be RTVed up at the manifold but that doesn't mean it leaks. Is there a way to pinpoint boost leaks? |
Like maybe take a proper sized PVC cap tap an air chuck in it. Then plug it into the fresh air inlet for the turbo , pressurize the system and listen. |
The only way you can put compressed air in to leak check is taking the rockers off so all the intake valves stay closed.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 2:06pm |
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Run engine a high idle (wot) trans in park. Spray soapy water on all joints/questionable spots that could leak boost.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 8:48am |
 Well that was easy
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 9:49am |
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I'm thinking you have a big leak. That may just be a small leak. Seal it up and try it again on boost test.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:02am |
injpumpEd wrote:
I'm thinking you have a big leak. That may just be a small leak. Seal it up and try it again on boost test. |
I thought it was a little light too. No leaks around the crossover base or manifold. Figure if I fix that one it will put more pressure downstream.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:41am |
All around the flange. So is it resealable? 
Edited by exSW - 28 Jul 2019 at 10:44am
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 2:06pm |
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I don't know what Agco or Ed charge for that turbo. Butt Amazon has them for $360.00 shipped to your door.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 3:03pm |
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I don't know what Agco or Ed charge for that turbo. Butt Amazon has them for $360.00 shipped to your door. |
Been there done that got the Chinese turbo to prove it. I can buy a rebuild kit of all USA,UK or Canadian parts for $60.00 from a mid western Company. And keep my 100% Garrett core.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 4:26pm |
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Replace the turbo. A rebuild kit is bearings and seals. Yours is so eroded, you'd waste so much time trying to get it apart. Looks like that would likely take care of your issue.
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 8:49am |
exSW wrote:
Fat albert wrote:
I don't know what Agco or Ed charge for that turbo. Butt Amazon has them for $360.00 shipped to your door. |
Been there done that got the Chinese turbo to prove it. I can buy a rebuild kit of all USA,UK or Canadian parts for $60.00 from a mid western Company. And keep my 100% Garrett core.
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Not trying to start a fight. Just curious as I’ve never rebuilt a turbo. Did you perhaps rebuild your now 8010’s leaking turbo? How involved is a typical rebuild kit - shaft, shaft bushings, turbines, etc?? And if so, how many years service, per a rebuild kit?
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Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 10:40am |
[/QUOTE] Not trying to start a eight. Just curious as I’ve never rebuilt a turbo. Did you perhaps rebuild your now 8010’s leaking turbo? How involved is a typical rebuild kit - shaft, shaft bushings, turbines, etc?? And if so, how many years service, per a rebuild kit?[/QUOTE]
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Posted: 07 Aug 2019 at 7:44pm |
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Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 6:23pm |
injpumpEd wrote:
Replace the turbo. A rebuild kit is bearings and seals. Yours is so eroded, you'd waste so much time trying to get it apart. Looks like that would likely take care of your issue. |
A GOOD rebuilder will replace not just the bearings and seals. They will replace impellers and housings if needed.
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Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 7:01pm |
I went with a new turbo. My reasoning was this. 1) less down time. Took me about four hours total. First one I've ever done. 2) Technical support. Ed answers the phone. 3) No core. So I can rebuild my original Garrett at my leasure and have a spare on the shelf for the next tractor.
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