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BiG210 
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 4:41pm |
What is the number of weights in a full rack is it 14 or 15.
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Unit3
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 5:33pm |
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8070 had 14. 8010, 8030, and 8050 had 10. Maybe you could have ordered them with a wide bracket, but for the most part tjis is what they came with.
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 7:43pm |
While on the subject, what should I charge someone for a full set of 14 weights, plus bracket and hardware? Thanks, Darrel
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Russ-neia
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 8:46pm |
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I ran a 14-weight bracket (only!) up to $200 this December at an auction and did not get it.
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427435
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 11:36pm |
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Slightly off subject, but has anyone noticed how much easier it is to put the front weights on an 8000 compared to many other tractors??? No need to raise them up to chest level to hook them over a bracket.
In another life, I worked with a guy running a mean MM 1050 LP tractor in pulling contests. He ran both 9000 and 12000 lb classes. That meant lifting a lot of weights. I made a point of designing in a front weight mounting system that did not require so much lifting.
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ILGLEANER
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Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 11:43pm |
Well thanks for that Mark!!!!! I always thought that was a real smart location for the weights on the 8000. And another good thing about the 8000 weight, the pullers dont hog all of them up like off of the 210s,200s.
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Unit3
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 6:42am |
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I too like their location, but I wish they would have put the handle on the top.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 9:30am |
I guess I'm in the minority, but I actually prefer the 7000 weights. I find the 100# 8000 weights awkward finger-pinchers to handle, too heavy and they also require the extra work of installing the safety strap at the rear if you don't want them coming off on a rough road and bending the pickup on your new round baler.
Most of all, I really wish the bracket had been further ahead to protect the grille when no weights are installed. Nearly every 8000 has grille damage.
Another nice touch would have been to have the A-C logo embossed on BOTH sides of the weight.
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BiG210
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 9:37am |
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Some of the weights have AC on both sides and some dont have any at all are these aftermarket ones and are there any 7000 one with AC on both sides
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Dave in il
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 12:55pm |
A few years ago I tried to buy a set off of a 7030 before it went to the scapyard and they wanted a $1000 w/o the bracket. I'd think an 8000 series set would be worth conciderably more. I'd bet 1/2 the 8000 series you see for sale don't have front weights, but I don't remember any new ones without full weights, where did all those weight go? LOL
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 9:55pm |
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Agco 9670 and 9690 each had a set of 8000 weights on them also
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Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 11:48pm |
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Russ-neia, I agree with you. The AC should have been cast into each side. Myself, the best looking AC weights are the thin weights of the 200, 210, and 220. For the rear, I like the looks of the pie weights of the 190/200 and the CA's. It took some thinking on those to get all of the cutouts spots in the right places.
Edited by Unit3 - 20 Mar 2024 at 11:23pm
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Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 12:50am |
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I too think the 8000 weights are a PITA to remove and install. Also 427435, did you ever think of making the FWA steering ram heavier or using two of them? We have had trouble with ours needing the bushing re-done every couple years.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 12:58am |
 Unit3 wrote:
8070 had 14. 8010, 8030, and 8050 had 10. Maybe you could have ordered them with a wide bracket, but for the most part tjis is what they came with. |
All were available with either bracket. Almost all I have seen have the 14 bracket. My dad bought a new (and still has) 8030 FWA with 14 weights.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 9:16am |
Jordan(OH) wrote:
I too think the 8000 weights are a PITA to remove and install. Also 427435, did you ever think of making the FWA steering ram heavier or using two of them? We have had trouble with ours needing the bushing re-done every couple years.
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Sorry that you find the weights difficult to remove and install. I did it a few times and thought it was a lot easier then the IH or 7000 style. With the extended upper lip, you can just get it close and lower the weight until the lip catches and then slide it all the way in--------------all at a height that doesn't require arm strength to lift. I don't recall any issues with the FWA steering ram--------------what front tires and rear tires are you using and at what wheel tread setting??
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Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 12:18pm |
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18.4-38 and 13.6-28 at 68 inches I think or whatever the spacing is with the wheels dished out. Just seems to take alot of beating on that joint.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 12:57pm |
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I am looking for the 14 suitcase weight bracket do you still have it available?
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