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    Posted: 11 May 2020 at 8:56am
Hello All
I'm new to here all looking for some help from all the experts
Im based in the UK and have a 7060 and a 8550
Unfortunately, engine in 7060 has gone and have an 8.3 cummins engine to put in it.  Bought an adaptor kit from Leamans tractors
The oil pan on this engine has a front mounted suction pipe.  I've had to reverse the oil pan for it to fit because it hits the front axle.
When it is reversed the other end of the oil pan is very shallow and the oil suction pipe prevents the oil pan from closing.
Has anyone done this conversion and managed to sort this problem.
Also, how do I get round the front mountings problem?
Hope someone will be able to help.
Thanks
 
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Have not been around the Cummins to know how they are made but often when installing combine engines, they trim front plate ears and use angle iron bolted to inside frame rail then weld the 2 together
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Welcome to the AC forum.
I would recommend contacting your engine adaptor plate source & ask them. Those businesses usually know about numerous issues associated with engine swaps.

From which application did your doner Cummins 8.3 arrive? Ag Tractor? AgCombine? Construction Equipment? Truck? GenSet? Etc?

For your AC7060 (AgTractor) application, you might look into the CaseIH magnum series oil pan at a salvage yard?

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Heres a truck 8.3 oil pan weblink that shows different Cummins part numbers & photos. 3924017 & 3924010 have about 3/4 moderate depth drain and 1/4 smaller squared-off deep sump. 3914013 is divided half deep sump & half shallow drain.
https://truckpartsinventory.com/oil-pans-cummins-6ct-8-3-parts
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In this link, scroll down to pages 78 to view 8.3 oil pan Cummins 3914015. It has a larger center sump with short drains on each end. It has shows oil pump suck tube. I believe this one is used by most of the case-IH tractor & combine applications.
https://mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0057274.pdf

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Here’s a link to Cummins 3944258 oil pan.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Cummins-ISC-8-3L-Oil-Pan-P-N-3944258/124179537010?epid=1423487218&hash=item1ce9ad5c72:g:d-IAAOSwVX5etFn2
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Hi
Thanks for your reply
The engine came out of a Dennis Fire Truck
The part no of the sump on it now is 3910874
Thanks again
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Thanks for the info
Will look into it
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Originally posted by Dafydd7060 Dafydd7060 wrote:

Hi
Thanks for your reply
The engine came out of a Dennis Fire Truck
The part no of the sump on it now is 3910874.
Thanks again

It’s always nice to know part numbers - thanks for sharing yours. So this link’s Cummins oil pan looks like yours? (Same as 3914013)
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32455891538.html
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Instead of swapping oil pans, you may just need to swap oil pan sump tubes??

When searching for this engine’s parts, try both Cummins “6c8.3” and/or “ISC”.

Here’s a Cummins oil pan sump tube link. It contains lots of engine models; ISX, N14, ISM, L10, ISC, 8.3, ISB, 5.9, so please scroll thru them til you find ISC or 8.3.
Or you could pick 8.3, ISC, 504, etc from their model search at top of page. Hope it’s helps
https://www.vanderhaags.com/Search-Results.php?manufacturer=cummins&inventorytype=engine-oil-pickup-tube

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Yes that sump is the same
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