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    Posted: 28 Dec 2021 at 3:15pm
What are the wheel weights worth, inner and outer?
Also…I’ve heard there are different types of suitcase weights? What are the differences and what are they worth?

Thanks
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Depends if you're buying or selling....doesn't it? Sorry but couldn't resist.
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As for the suitcase weights, one measures 1¾" thick and weighs 65 or 70lbs. The heavy one is 2¼" thick and comes in at 100lb I believe. Value? That depends whether buying or selling. My own experience has been auctions. Several years ago when I needed weights I bought the smaller ones at $40 each. Later at another auction I got them for $10 each. I see the larger ones listed at $100 each on various sites. The 7040 I bought for $2500 had ten of the big ones included in sale price.
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Around these parts, weight typically is about $1 per pound.  That's a good gauge of your deal better or worse than that and how bad you want it or how bad you want to get rid of it. 
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For years, I have heard $1/pound. If you want a specific style weight and are willing to pay, that is the rule of thumb.

A few years ago, I bought some 100 lb. (+/-) Deutz suitcase weights at an auction for $25 each. 

Last fall, I bought 8 Nuffield (70 lb.) suitcase weights for $200. The guy had been trying to sell them for a long time and decided to take my offer.

Generally, suitcase weights are more desirable (especially with tractor pullers) than wheel weights and command a higher price. As was said, it depends on how much you want/need them.


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I’ve got a few weights on my 7080 already, but a guy fairly locally is selling wheel weights and was asking $1/lb. Didn’t know if that was reasonable or not, but sounds like it is.
I’m aware of the inner and outer weights being different sizes, but where the outer weights offered in multiple sizes? The seller doesn’t know how much they weigh but is guessing 320 lb. I kinda hate paying based on a guess.
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load em up and go to a set scales...local co-op ought to help ya out, that way ya know for sure
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I know you're skinny, but you're tall.....so you weigh something, 180 maybe?

Set up a crude balance, like a 4x4 or a couple of 4x4s bolted together, or a channel iron or something stiff enough to hold that 300-320 pound weight.  Stand on the other side of a pivot, walk away from the pivot until the weight raises.  Ratio out your weight x distance from the pivot to the distance to the center of the weight and solve for the weight's weight.  Crude, but as effective as your measurements and knowing how much you weigh.  Will get you close enough for negotiating purposes.Wink


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That’s a pretty interesting idea!
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Ya just got to be smart enough to come up with the right formula. Algebra class was too many years ago and my "go to" draftsman/engineer passed away last May. He knew all that stuff.
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I have faith in Creston on that one.  It's pretty straightforward.  
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W1 multiplied by D1 divided by D2 equals W2

W1 : known weight
D1 : distance from known weight to pivot point
D2 distance from unknown weight to pivot point

W2: unknown weight: solved with the above known values.

Keep the distance in fractions of a foot, not like 3' 4" as it complicates the math. So 3' 4" is 3.33'
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I hope you guys don't sell corn/beans on your teeter/totter method of weighing an item LOLLOL !!
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

I hope you guys don't sell corn/beans on your teeter/totter method of weighing an item LOLLOL !!

Before electronic scales, how do you think truck scales worked? Same idea, just multiple stages of the same principle, with accurate distance and weight measurement. I simply suggested a field solution that’s going to be close enough if done thoughtfully and carefully.
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I remember the balance beam scale at the local elevator some 40 years ago. Just a memory now.
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wheel weights, especially the really heavy inners, are not really worth $1/LB. Find a happy price and haggle as needed. $200-$400 for a pair of those big inners would be plenty to pay. It's more work to get them off a parts tractor than anything lol! There's no way I'd o to the hassle of loading them up to take them to weigh!
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I’m with Ed on this. Red or green weights might bring $ 1 a pound but I never see A C 7000 series weights bring that much. Usually it’s about half that. And those inner weights, even less. They are A LOT of work to change.
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Originally posted by cwhit cwhit wrote:

I’m with Ed on this. Red or green weights might bring $ 1 a pound but I never see A C 7000 series weights bring that much. Usually it’s about half that. And those inner weights, even less. They are A LOT of work to change.
Dang.....means I got hosed last year.Cry

Don't remember what I paid for the inners several years ago, but pretty sure less than $1 per pound.


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I agree that it depends on location and the type of weights you're dealing with.  AC suitcase weights still seem to command a decent price around here.  The last couple sets of AC suitcase weights I've seen at auction brought close to $1/lb.  Outside wheel weights and especially the inners are all over the place.  

I don't remember exactly how much I paid but I bought 2 sets of inner weights for my 7080 3 years ago and wanna say it was under $.50/lb.  ...but that was a private sale and the seller wanted them out of his way.  

As others have mentioned, those inner weights are a PITA to install.  However, I'm glad to have them versus liquid ballast.  After multiple leaking tubes over several years, it's nice to be rid of that constant headache!
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Creston, I'm thinking more like 40 cents a pound on big weights like that. Guess it depends on how bad you need them.
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