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ssefick 
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 9:16am |
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Got a bale. Got the seal from agco. Tube is clear at the solinoid. And tube is clear at the manifold.
But there is a leak under the seal. Any thoughts? Maybe a different can?
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victoryallis
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 3:05pm |
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Disable it you’re not doing the motor any favors. If you need help starting use the block heater. We got 10 diesel tractors around not one has a viable ether injection system.
Edited by victoryallis - 21 Jan 2023 at 3:08pm
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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DrAllis
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 3:51pm |
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If you've got a legit rubber seal, it fits into a pocket on the underside of the electric base. When installed properly, it can't fall out unless it gets stuck to the can and you pull it out when removing an empty can.
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ssefick
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 7:06pm |
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No block heater. I would have to install. I'll only use it once in a while.
Protocol:
1. Set throttle to about 1/2
2. Turn engine over until white smoke comes out of the smoke stack.
3. Depress button 'one one thousand's
I won't really use it that much as I am in South Carolina. Should I modify this in anyway?
Dr. Allis, the lip was crushed where the seal seats on the solenoid assembly on the tractor. I bought a used assembly for the bail that came with the solenoid assembly.The solenoid worked so I seated the rubber seal and installed the new solenoid assembly. It is working now.
Thanks everyone, and please let me know your thoughts.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 8:34pm |
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Use the least amount you can to get it to fire. If it will stay running on one or two cylinders the others will join in after they make enough heat.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 21 Jan 2023 at 9:25pm |
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Inject either only when the starter is still spinning the engine. I always relocated the ether nozzle upstream from the turbocharger to deaden things up a bit...never any knock or rattle as compared to in the intake manifold location.
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ssefick
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 7:34am |
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Yes, only injecting when starter is spinning the motor.
Dr. Allis, the general procedure for relocation would be:
1. Tap hole in air line after the turbo and before the manifold?
2. Install the atomizer etc.
3. Plug hole in manifold with small bolt.
There was definitely a little knock.
Is it a simpler/safer solution to install an after market block heater? I am certain I am overthinking this...
Thanks everyone!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 8:00am |
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Ether installed in the crossover tube above the valve cover is better, yes. But I installed it ahead of the turbo....between air cleaner and turbo. Plug old holes, yes.
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sparky
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 10:06am |
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Is there or is there not a freeze plug in that block? I don’t know but if it does why not put a block heater in it similar to the ones in my 175 and 185? They work great for me.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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ssefick
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 10:57am |
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There is a freeze plug where the heater would go. Or at least I think that is where the heater would go.
Does agco sell these still?
Thanks Dr. Allis. I'll go look at the tractor and figure on it.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 2:37pm |
As you set on the seat of the tractor- on the right side of the block at the very end is where the block heater goes- Agco does not mess with these any more , its a simple design that a 190 XT heater will work , with modifications;; Countryside Tractor sells a kit for this now
Edited by DougG - 22 Jan 2023 at 2:38pm
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 10:34pm |
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I think the factory block heater is in the diamond shaped plate at the rear right side. It has a pipe going around the back to the manifold which is part of it. NLA The pipe is the problem. You could use a "regular" heater if not for the pipe. I think Countryside has devised a way to add a connection for the pipe.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2023 at 7:46am |
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On my 6060, the block heater is behind the starter (right rear side of block). It does a great job of "warming up" engine. Usually 15 - 20 minutes is all it takes to get it warmed and started.
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