58 D17...power director questions

Pics to come but I just traded the WF for a pretty straight D17 Narrow front gas with power steering. Everything works pretty well except the draft control levers are stuck and the power director won't snap in to low the whole way and it whines. ..more so in high range. Runs and drives well. Ordering a manual today but can anyone five any ideas on the whining? Bearing? Thanks for any help.

Also missing the rod to engage the pulley






Edited by BennyLumpkin - 03 Aug 2015 at 10:47am

I forget off the top of my head....I think it was in the mid 7000's if it remember. I'll look tonight. It's not so pretty up close. Was a scrub and paint at some point but better looking than any of my other's lol

Edited by BennyLumpkin - 03 Aug 2015 at 1:13pm

The shimming doesn't worry me as much as the noise does. It's a whirring or shining sound. Does it in low but stops if I pull back pressure on the PD handle and gets worse in high. Doesn't matter if it's sitting or running down the road.

Edited by BennyLumpkin - 03 Aug 2015 at 1:19pm

Mine makes the whirring noise too. More so in high than low. I also know mine sat for 15 years without running and did have moisture in the trans and PD. I could hardly believe how rusty the original clutch assy was. I split the tractor and swapped in a used clutch assy. If you go that route, make sure you have somebody who knows what to look for eyeball your clutch. It's not that bad to split one with stands. We did mine with stands on the front half and a chainfall on a pair of A frames. A heavy duty cherry picker would probably do it too.

Through Google I found Dr.Allis going over adjustment and I watched a vid on YouTube so I understand that part. Just curious on the noise still. I'm sure we'll get it figured out

I think the issue with getting it into low range could be bad clutches if you pull the pack Google the allis chalmers part number for the clutches there is a manufacturer in Ohio who sells direct.   I swapped packs in my d15 with a pack that looked good but I bought all new clutches for my d17 they where not too bad price wise and as I use mine alot I sort of wish I had done new ones in my d15 but I had the used pack and it works.
If the noise is there sitting still I would say it isn't the finals they are not moving. I old put it in neutral on the transmission and then shift try putting it into high or low. If the noise is there in neutral I would suspect that the issue is bearing in the torque tube.   Mine had a bad bearing on the main shaft but it didn't make any noise. I split it because I was having trouble putting it into high range. Long story short but I had issues with the clutch pack rebuild that had to be fixed.
The clutch pack runs on hydraulic oil. So does the belt pullie compartment ahead of it. Then gear oil in the transmission and finials.

The wheel side of the fenders had a number of patches welded in very poorly and they're pretty rusty at the mounts. They'll do for now but I'll keep an eye for a set. The paint is poor up close. I started washing it and rubbed some off so it have to be a little gentle with it.

I've been through the whole fender argument on here before. The inner structure of mine are roached and full of shoddy patchwork. I'll find better factory ones though I just pull and run snowblower at dad's and odd stuff so aftermarket would be ok. I have a set for my 45 and think they're decent. Anyways, I went out and finished washing it a bit ago and got most of the garbage off it and started snooping and noticed the lift arms wouldn't lift and the stick didn't hardly have anything on it. Put a gallon or so in and now they'll lift but it can push them down. My noise got quieter also. How do the quadrant controls work? They seem a bit bound up. Thanks guys!

Mine feels bound up...I think something internal isn't right. It had no middle detent or stop. The noise got quieter but it's still there. Maybe it's in the pump not the PD? ?

Benny,

Edited by Jim Hancock - 03 Aug 2015 at 11:13pm

I just went and looked at it and if I put the traction booster handle all the way down it won't go to the bottom. It stops 4 notches from it. If I put it there I can't move the lift handle at all.

It sat I think 3 years he said. In an open air shed but still sat. Everything is "loose" but like I said if I put the traction booster handle down it'll only go 4 notches from the bottom and it stops and when I latch it there the lift handle won't move at all. If I put the TB handle up the lift handle moves a little but not much. It seems internally bound.

So I unhooked the rod that goes from the lift handle rod to the part it moved into the pump housing. If the TB handle is in the down lost ion it won't move at all. Also the TB handle won't go clear down. If If I put the TB handle up I can move the other part a little. Even with some added leverage it won't move...doeas?

That one looks great Ryan! Nice addition. I just got a set of side panels for under the gas tank for my 59 D17. I'm working on duplicating them with a programable plasma cutter. Will let you know how it goes. My D17 is still in pieces. Patiently waiting it's turn. I know a guy with a parts D17 he is getting ready to scrap out. Not much left on it.
Ray W.