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72AC200 
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 Topic: 200 on 18.4 x 34 to 18.4 x 38
Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 5:47pm |
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I have been thinking about switching my 200 to 18.4x38. I have 18.4x34 on right now and I have been wondering how to do that ?
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Darb210
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Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 6:50pm |
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unverferth mfg makes a step-up rim that will use your 34" cast centers, i think that would be the easiest way
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 7:05pm |
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+ 1 on the step up rims. I did a few with them when I owned the tire shop. Make sure you double check all the bolts holding the wheels on. Run them no more than 1 hour and check. If you hear any snapping or popping stop and check them.
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 8:06pm |
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We did the step up rims on an IH 856. Best thing we ever did for that tractor.
Sat more level, could plow in the same gear as the other 856, better traction
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Joe(TX)
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Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 9:30pm |
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The standard tire on a 200 is 18.4-38. 190's had 18.4-34 standard. They have different final drive ratios. Get the 200 wheel centers.
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DanWi
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Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 9:51pm |
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If you want spin-outs then you need 38" centers and rims. Didn't they also make extended blocks to switch from 34s to 38s?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 7:16am |
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200's never had 18.4 38's as standard equipment, altho near the end most had them. Most of the early 200's had 34 inch rear rubber. Actual gearing/gear ratios between a 190XT and a 200 are exactly the same except for 1st gear, which is slower on a 200. A 200 had a different ring and pinion (more strength/wear life) but the ratio was the same. Same goes for the final drives....wider stronger gears, but the exact same ratio.
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DougG
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Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 4:24pm |
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Yeah ive seen alot more 18.4-34,s on 200,s than 38,s - not standard at all
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DrAllis
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Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 5:14pm |
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In all honesty, for a 200 to nicely replace a 190XT, it should have had 18.4 x 38 inch rubber. It was about a 10% speed up for each given gear selection, more weight and traction.
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KJCHRIS
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 12:54am |
Do you have spin outs or std rims? The std rims you can get adapter type wedges ( unverferth ) to go from 34" to 38" then just need 38" rims and tires. Spin outs, you need different cast wheel center, rims and tires.
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allisbred
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 5:07am |
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A few years ago I looked at a 200 with 20.8 x 38”, didn’t run it though. Ours has 18.4 x 38” and is still plenty slow. Just a thought if you are changing out.
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