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WD45Diesel57 
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 Topic: 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 Diesel knock solved
Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 8:58pm |
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We pulled the head of the engine the other night, thinking it was a bad valve spring. We had a friend come down have a look and he found that number 6 piston is slightly striking the cylinder head. Just enough to leave an impression of the number on the piston top in the carbon in the cylinderhead. Now we have to tear it down further and determine the cause.
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Chris/CT
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:16pm |
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If you need any parts let me know, lots of 45D engine parts looking for new home[s]
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MACK
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:20pm |
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Check for a loose rod beating on that cylinder. MACK
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:28pm |
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Good selection of Conn Rods ready to ship
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:52pm |
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we have to pull the pan and do some checking. do you think its stretched?
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:54pm |
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That's what I found on my D17D. Had 3 pistons hitting the head. Excessive milling on the deck of the block, probably to correct sleeve counter bores was what was wrong with mine. Check the piston stand out on all cyls. I don't know if it will be the same as the 262, but since they are very similar, the stand out might be the same. Spec on a 262 according to the original blue prints is .002 to .029. The compressed head gasket measured .055. The pistons hitting measured .060. All of my connecting rod wrist pin bushings were considerably worn on the beam side. It took a new block to fix mine right.
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WD45Diesel57
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 9:58pm |
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im hoping its nothing too serious, got my fingers crossed
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 10:02pm |
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Can't see how the rod would be stretched....I'd wire wheel the pistons and check the standout...then go from there. Maybe get out the angle grinder :-)
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WD45Diesel57
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 10:05pm |
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thats what we were thinking if nothing is wrong in the bottom, we where told to shave the top of the piston
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 10:09pm |
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sounds like some wood will be knocking along with your engine
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Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 10:16pm |
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Sounds like a job for a belt sander, steady operator, problemo solved?
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 10:02am |
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I had the block decked .022 to correct the sleeve stand out problem, then had the pistons cut to match. Runs good. Utube/Matt Pehl, click on tractor going away with fat guy on left fender.
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 10:57am |
Co8uld it be just carbom build up?
Maybe heck for con rod wear allow piston to hit on ex stroke, check rod bearing...
If lower pan comes off, might want to rering engine on all cyl .. Rod streatch? kind of doubt that, rod bent maybe. Gasket to thin to begin with, possible.
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