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AC720Man 
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 7:33pm |
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After my recent purchase of a 160. I cant help but think of a tilt hood on my 190XT. The tilt hood on the 160 is so handy and gives easy access to the engine. Removing the straight pipe to tilt the hood is no big issue, and adapting the air cleaner really doesn’t seam like a big obstacle. I haven’t looked into the mounting of the hood pivot points yet. Just something I’m gonna investigate some time. Anyone else thought of doing this? I have already modified my grill, got rid of the terrible design latches and bolted the grill to the hood so I wouldn’t have it come unlatched and run over it like so many have done. Grills are about non existent.
What’s your thoughts?
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 7:57pm |
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I have though about this at length. Grill would have to stay removable. Hood would have to pivot up slightly before it tilted forward, (to clear radiator neck) which means can't do a single hinge point. Hinge linkage would have to be between hood and front radiator side supports, which would remain stationary to hold the radiator. I would use door shock type absorbers to keep hood in tilt position and a quick release system on rear of hood to hold it back down. Of course the voltage regulator would have to be relocated and the dash cover could hinge rearward like on the 170/175. But the muffler/pipe would have to be removed to make the tilt hood possible.
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AC720Man
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 8:07pm |
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Alex, forgot about the radiator neck, so good point there. Wonder how much that opening would have too be enlarged to prevent a double hinge? Wish I had a junk 190 to play with, really don't want to do trial and error on my painted XT lol! Removing 4 bolts to remove the grill is no big deal. I don’t have the front weight on it and without looking at mine at the moment I’m thinking my grill is beyond the front end. Like I saiid, I will look at it at the farm. It hit me while I’m at home in my recliner haha.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 9:00pm |
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On my 190 pulling tractor, I just made hinges at very front. MACK
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 9:04pm |
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Mack, did you have to do much modification to get it to work?
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MACK
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Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 9:39pm |
No, but nothing through hood. Ex out the side, no radiator. You could always extend regulator wires to pivot and back. Attach cowling at front with two small hinges. Use latches like grill at back of hood. Put cross braces in front of radiator to support front (like 170). MACK
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Posted: 27 Jun 2021 at 7:45am |
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Always thought it'd be easy enough to do, need a front square frame hinge it at the front, and mig the side panels on- Mack how do not run a radiator? Is the tractor block/ head full of hard blok? Curious cause I'm playing with this idea
Edited by DougG - 27 Jun 2021 at 7:51am
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Posted: 28 Jun 2021 at 8:47am |
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Been contemplating this for several years now for my 210 puller. The pipe on a puller is easy enough, just make the pipe a stub off the turbo, then bolt a larger one to the hood that tilts with it, then sits down over it, and a metal plate seals it up some. Not sure it would be good on a stock farm tractor though lol! Been trying to figure a simple way to make a hinge at front hidden behind grill. Love to see some pics.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2021 at 8:53pm |
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Aluminum head and burns enough alcohol to cool it. MACK
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Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 1:28am |
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Have to confess I do have a red tractor in my farm fleet, CIH 7110 to be exact, the hood on them does tip forward on a compound hinge, that may provide some assistance with the fabrication. Good luck and post pictures along the way
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Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 8:23am |
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Yup, more complicated but will balance better. Plus you wont rip the radiator neck off.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 10:47am |
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Also consider the links on front of hood on a B1 Allis lawn tractor
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Posted: 30 Jun 2021 at 7:25am |
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Why not consider the hinge point at the rear of the hood ??
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Posted: 30 Jun 2021 at 8:00am |
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why even bother I've had the hood off once in 10 years.
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Posted: 08 Sep 2021 at 12:17pm |
Looking forward to the pics for this modification... tilting hood. Like to do it to a 170, specially for changing the battery out.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2021 at 9:40pm |
 Will try to get a better picture but this is the hinge assembly for the tilt hood on my 160. Very simple design. This design would require the grill, front hood side shields, and hood be wielded together. Sure makes maintenance easy and not difficult to remove the hood. 4 bolts and it can be removed. On a 190, make a new bracket to mount the electrical components on so they can be removed from the hood. If I had my 160 before I painted my 19XT, I would have been willing to try this. The grill extends beyond the front bolster so that would not be an issue. There is a frame wielded to the the 160 hood to support the weight.
Edited by AC720Man - 28 Sep 2021 at 8:34am
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Posted: 27 Sep 2021 at 9:54pm |
 This is a picture I took when I first bought this 160 as I was in the process of removing the engine to do a full rebuild.
Edited by AC720Man - 27 Sep 2021 at 10:05pm
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