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johnny
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: shawneetown, il Points: 317 |
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Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 1:12am |
i have a 220 and a 190xt and both have primer pumps that leak as much fuel as they pump when using them. so today i made some changes to mine and got rod of the rubber plunger and replaced it with a sealed bosch pump as used on other tractors. cost about $30 to do the change and about 30 minutes,
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8626 |
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Where did you get that pump from Johnny? Thanks, Darrel
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DSeries4
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7311 |
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The local diesel shop just rebuilt mine a few weeks ago. Roosa Master supplies a kit for changing out the seals on those hand pumps.
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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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johnny
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: shawneetown, il Points: 317 |
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darrel, i got the pump from my local pump rebuilder. i have bought the kit from agco but i have always got squirted with fuel when using the pump. with this bosch change i dont get squirted and it seals good.
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EricPA
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Watsontown,PA. Points: 2578 |
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Maybe you should fix the fuel gauge
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Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2313 |
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dealer here would NOT sell me any seals to fix mine, ---said I had to buy the whole pump at $ 185.----and I told them to kiss it and went 2 blocks down the street to napa and bought a electric pump for less than fifty bucks!---best thing I ever did for the 190! ( except to get the tractor sold, as I don't need it for my 5 acre garden)! thanks; ac fleet
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Adam Stratton
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SW MO Points: 1363 |
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A quick search for the part number in the picture took me here (I ordered a couple one for my XT and for my 7000 (they both like to squirt too!)
also on amazon, but a little higher
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johnny
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: shawneetown, il Points: 317 |
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here is a link showing the steps i took to me this work.
http://www.grandpastractor.com/kunena/allis-chalmers/1493-190-diesel-hand-primer-pump-rebuild.html Edited by johnny - 09 Feb 2016 at 10:30pm |
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4873 |
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that looks like a pretty good setup, but I sell the complete rebuild kits for the primer assembly for around $70. The plunger is 45 of that. What you don't see are the 2 check valves inside that get clogged up with crap and create a major restriction of fuel flow to the pump. Those check valves are about 10 each. Putting on the Bosch primer does nothing about the 2 check valves inside. New replacement plungers don't leak either. Once that bosch primer is 40 years old, it will be leaking too lol!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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BZRANCH
Bronze Level Joined: 29 Apr 2018 Location: Virginia Points: 1 |
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Where can I buy your complete kit?
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orangereborn
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 1427 |
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[QUOTE=johnny]here is a link showing the steps i took to me this work.
http://www.grandpastractor.com/kunena/allis-chalmers/1493-190-diesel-hand-primer-pump-rebuild.html[/QUOTE] So you just adapted the Bosch to the OEM barrel? Think that would work using an elbow so it is upright? That is plunger only? Still using the OEM valves in stock body? Thanks....Dale |
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johnny
Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: shawneetown, il Points: 317 |
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Yes Dale, I only adapted the new pump to the barrel and left all the original check valves and spring intact. I don't see why you couldn't put in an elbow it should work fine with one I would think if there is room to still pump the pump.
johnny
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Mooreje1
Bronze Level Joined: 22 Sep 2022 Location: Macon MO Points: 8 |
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Do you have the primer rebuild kits for a 200 allis?
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calico190xt68
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2017 Location: Frankton, IN Points: 803 |
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I bought the rebuild kit from injpumped. Primer doesnt leak, works great. Only problem i had was allowing gunk to get into the check valves because i got rid of the sediment bowl screens and then left fuel cap off while mowing. I blew out check valves with air and they were fine. I recommend using original equipment.
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80 7010, 80 7020. 67 190XTD Series I w/500 Loader, AC 2000 Plow, AC 4 row Planter, AC 77G Rake, Member Indiana A-C Partners, Member TAC
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oldways
Orange Level Joined: 25 Apr 2013 Location: west Ky Points: 508 |
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I did this to both of my 190xt about 2 yrs ago. Only way to go.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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