190 trans gears

I used them in my trans rebuild. my tractor is used mostly for chore type jobs not heavy tillage everyday though. it has pulled my 4-16 plow in 5th and pulled down the motor in heavy gumbo ground. also pulled at local tractor pull. i cannot say as to longevity, as it has only been rebuilt for a year. i had not heard anything bad about the gears before i installed them and so far i am happy. i replaced 2nd, 3rd, and input shaft as well as the shift collars. my tractor had a loader on in and was used very hard.

link to my teardown post with pics

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52834&KW=&PID=411216&title=my-xt-teardown-pics#411216

BTW. this is not a cheap job whether you do it yourself or especially if you have someone do it for you. I did all my own work. With the gears and couplers and replacing every seal and gasket on the rear end from AGCO. over $1000 just in parts. just the gears from AGCO were going to run approx $1500 if i remember correctly.

Edited by CAL(KS) - 06 Mar 2015 at 5:14am

Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

Don't just change the gears when you are in there. I have found that sloppy bearings contribute to the gear jumping problem. If you can move the input shaft up and down and side to side, those bearing need replacing! I've noticed that in all 3 of the transmissions I've had rebuilt.

'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080

we have a 190 tranny ' rebuilt by an a-c service man --seals brgs etc-3 1/4 inch axles

will fob indiana-us 30 100 mi. east of chicago --574-527-2429or 574-342-4668[home] it is for sale call for info.

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chuck (WI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 07 Feb 2010 Location: wisconsin Points: 200	Post Options Post Reply Quote chuck (WI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 190 trans gears Posted: 05 Mar 2015 at 10:59pm
	wondering if anybody has used any of the aftermarket gears out there. Is there any aftermarket gears other than A&I.

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CAL(KS) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3734	Post Options Post Reply Quote CAL(KS) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2015 at 5:00am
	I used them in my trans rebuild. my tractor is used mostly for chore type jobs not heavy tillage everyday though. it has pulled my 4-16 plow in 5th and pulled down the motor in heavy gumbo ground. also pulled at local tractor pull. i cannot say as to longevity, as it has only been rebuilt for a year. i had not heard anything bad about the gears before i installed them and so far i am happy. i replaced 2nd, 3rd, and input shaft as well as the shift collars. my tractor had a loader on in and was used very hard. link to my teardown post with pics http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52834&KW=&PID=411216&title=my-xt-teardown-pics#411216 BTW. this is not a cheap job whether you do it yourself or especially if you have someone do it for you. I did all my own work. With the gears and couplers and replacing every seal and gasket on the rear end from AGCO. over $1000 just in parts. just the gears from AGCO were going to run approx $1500 if i remember correctly. Edited by CAL(KS) - 06 Mar 2015 at 5:14am
	Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15

chuck (WI) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 07 Feb 2010 Location: wisconsin Points: 200	Post Options Post Reply Quote chuck (WI) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Mar 2015 at 9:13pm
	thanksfor the reply cal.

DSeries4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Points: 7204	Post Options Post Reply Quote DSeries4 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2015 at 10:26am
	Don't just change the gears when you are in there. I have found that sloppy bearings contribute to the gear jumping problem. If you can move the input shaft up and down and side to side, those bearing need replacing! I've noticed that in all 3 of the transmissions I've had rebuilt.
	'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080

Mrgoodwrench Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Location: CHICORA PA Points: 2081	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mrgoodwrench Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2015 at 4:32pm
	we used a&i in our series 3 last year and no problems so far. I know it got first and third ans the collars, some other good used original stuff too. we started out to do it ourselves but then got short on time(and kinda wimped out). ended up pulling the rear assembly out with the finals and wheel centers still on it and dropped it off with bill at sandy lake imp. they had it fixed in about a week for around $2000( I think)and most of that was parts. you can save a lot of money doing the grunt work yourself and letting someone who had been in there before do the detail stuff.
	There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!!

norm[ind] Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Location: bourbon,ind Points: 2992	Post Options Post Reply Quote norm[ind] Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Mar 2015 at 7:31pm
	we have a 190 tranny ' rebuilt by an a-c service man --seals brgs etc-3 1/4 inch axles will fob indiana-us 30 100 mi. east of chicago --574-527-2429or 574-342-4668[home] it is for sale call for info.