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NDCurt 
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Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 5:38pm |
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Brakes on the 185 have needed doing for awhile but now the left one is totally locking up. Forward and reverse will break free for a couple feet and then lock up. Question is - how much more damage could I do if I continue to rock it free and get in the shop ~150 feet. Also, this is going to be a big job right, cab off/tilted back out of the way and then from the top? Thanks
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 7:11pm |
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When they start locking up, you've probably done some expensive damage already and more use means more $$$$$$ damage. Depending on the cab design, you have to be able to remove the complete axle from the rear end.....nothing from the top.
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Posted: 16 Sep 2012 at 8:59pm |
The steel panel around the seat base is handy to have off if you have brake pins that are difficult to drive out. On my tractor, one brake band pin slid out easy, but the other side took several hours of work before it freed up. I ended up needing the seat access panel removed so that I could cut the pin and brake band from the top. You will hate the design if you get one that is tuff to pull. A pin having 1-7/8 of solid tight tolerance steel to pass through is not my idea of a good design plan. Thats probably the worse part of the whole procedure of changing brakes. That and having to move the hydraulic bank up and out of the way to pull the axles. Good Luck!
Stubborn Brake Band Pin :( A Last minute "throw together" axle hoist. Worked very well!
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NDCurt
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Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 9:44pm |
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Thanks for the good info - Not what I want to do right now got about 40 bales of hay to bale and haul that I really want done and this is not an overnight project.
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Gatz in NE
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Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 10:23pm |
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Curt,
I've got some pics from when I replaced the brakes on my D17sIV; which would be similar to a 185.
PM me if you need them.
gatz
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 9:09pm |
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Well I got lucky, after I got the cab jacked up high enough to get at the axle bolts everything came apart real easily. Brake band linings look like new (almost) but all the other pads are shot. The worst is that the balls between the drum and disc assembly had come out of their spot so drum and other part are shot also. Parts will be here Friday so I guess I know what the weekend will be.
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Gatz in NE
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 10:02pm |
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if you havent read about it before..... do NOT lube the balls/ramps when assembling.
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 10:18pm |
 Marshall wrote:
The steel panel around the seat base is handy to have off if you have brake pins that are difficult to drive out. On my tractor, one brake band pin slid out easy, but the other side took several hours of work before it freed up. I ended up needing the seat access panel removed so that I could cut the pin and brake band from the top. You will hate the design if you get one that is tuff to pull. A pin having 1-7/8 of solid tight tolerance steel to pass through is not my idea of a good design plan. Thats probably the worse part of the whole procedure of changing brakes. That and having to move the hydraulic bank up and out of the way to pull the axles. Good Luck!
Stubborn Brake Band Pin :( A Last minute "throw together" axle hoist. Worked very well! |
I had a few pins that were a problem, but after heating them red hot a few times and some twisting with a small pair of vice grips they gave up the fight.....
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Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 10:19pm |
Gatz in NE wrote:
if you havent read about it before..... do NOT lube the balls/ramps when assembling. |
Nothing on your balls....especially anti-sieze!
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Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 8:41am |
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You do what you want with/without lube on the balls...I don't care. You'd better be using some light lube/WD40 etc on the splines of the drum to the axle shaft, so the drum can slide easily back and forth.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 11:14pm |
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Well, parts came today and things went together a lot better/easier than I thought they would, had it back together in a couple hours. I had done the same thing to my 180 a number of years ago but I had the shop do it. Sure saved a bundle doing it myself and not having to haul it in. Thanks for all the advice.
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