170 power director

What type work u doing with Tractor

My clutch discs all measure on average between .115-.118 the manual shows discs to be between .117-.123 new my measurements i will post as you can see my low clutch is shimed down to only having .030 shims in it. So im assuming the discs need replaced?

Also images of my clutch discs which i believe a couple have some warping it looks as if some of the plates almost have some rubbing on the inner centers by the splines

I dont know if phone numbers can be exchanged on here but would love to talk though this with someone with the experience

so in your opinion do new clutch discs tend to have very much more fiber then what mine look like in the pictures.  my thing is if there is enough difference it is easier to do it now then 5 years from now and the loader it on it but i also dont want to needlessly replace parts if it wont make much difference.  i inspected the rollers for wear or flat spots and they dont show any signs of wear that i can see.  Does it look to you like the end plates are due for replacement from what you can see?  they are horrible expensive at $350 per plate or i see Allstateagparts sell a replacement for $155 which i assume are good enough quality and do you have an opinion or experience with them.  thanks and sorry for all the questions just want to make it right it was my fathers tractor and il keep it alive for the rest of my life.  one other question is is there a maximum amount of adjustment you can go on shimming these or does that not really factor in due to there still being good disc left to wear. i have heard that the .090 outside shim packs are only supposed to be adjusted down to .055 which currently on my low side clutch im already sitting at .030 and i realize new ramp plate would help with this measurement also

NO IT IS NOT A SHUTTLE CLUTCH IM JUST SAYING ITS EASIER TO DO THE WORK NOW BEFORE I PUT THE LOADER ON AND HAVE TO REDO THE JOB IN A COUPLE YEARS. MAYBE IM JUST OVERTHINKING THE WHOLE THING. I WAS JUST CONCERNED WITH DISCS DUE TO HOW MY CLUTCH WAS ALREADY SHIMED DOWN TO .030 ON THE LOW SIDE CLUTCH WHICH I KNOW THE ENDPLATE BEING REPLACED WOULD CHANGE THAT AS WELL. I JUST WAS UNSURE HOW LOW A PERSON COULD SHIM THE LOW CLUTCH OR IF THAT DIDNT REALLY MATTER UNLESS YOUR DISCS WERE DOWN TO METAL ON METAL

WELL I HAD A DESCENT ENOUGH LEAK FROM THE PTO ENGAGEMENT LEVER O-RING LEAKING AND WAS ANNOYING ENOUGH I WANTED TO FIX IT SI I DRAIN FLUID AND PULLED INSPECTION PLATE AND DTERMINED I WASNT GONNA BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE ROLL PIN TO GET THAT JOB DONE WITHOUT SPLITING THE TRACTOR AND I HAD A PRETTY GOOD CREEP WHEN IN GEAR BUT POWER DIRECTOR NOT ENGAGED WHICH I KNOW CAN BE COMMON MY D19 DOES THE SAME THING BUT NOT AT THIS MUCH OF A CREEP SO I FIGURED WHEN I SPLIT IT IT WAS A GOOD TIME TO LOOK OVER THE CLUTCH THE TRACTOR WAS MY FATHER AND I DONT THINK HE HAD EVER HAD ANYTHING DONE TO IT.  WHEN I SEEN THE .030 SHIM STACK ON THE LOW SIDE I DECIDE TO SPLIT THE POWER DIRECTOR APART TO INPECT THE DISCS ECPECTING TO SEE THE DICS COMPLETELY WORN OUT BUT NOT REALLY WHAT IM SEEING.  THE CLUTCH HAD BEEN SHIMMED BUT ALL THE SHIMS PUT IN THE CENTER STACK WRE SHORT SHIMS INSTEAD OF THE LONG SHIMS OTHER THEN THE ORIGINAL .025 SHIMS FROM ORIGINAL THE REST OF THEM ARE SHORT SHIMS WHICH I KNOW THEY ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE LONG SHIMS IN THE CENTER STACK AND MAYBE THAT IS SOME OF MY TOLERANC PROBLEM IDK IF THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT PLATE TO FLEX ENOUGH TO BE SOME OF THE PROBLEM OR NOT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT RIGHT

Yeah. The short shims in the center shows that whomever did the "shim job" didn't have a clue. The way your ramp plates look, I'll bet it would jump out of gear at full throttle/cold oil. New ramp plates will tighten things up some. You might find yourself adding short shims back where they cam from.

MACK wrote: Replace over center plates and rollers if they have flat spots or end pins broken off. Disks look like new. Save your money.                     MACK

We have had no issues with these parts from A&I

thanks for all the information. i appreciate the straight forward answer Mack and the confirmation the discs looked like new that what my measurements were telling me for the most part just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing anything