170 brakes? How much left?

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   Is there an efficient way of estimating the life or amount of adjustment left on the brakes? If these are near the end, I just soon as replace them before installing a loader. Any help appreciated. Tracy Martin

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Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10781	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 170 brakes? How much left? Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 10:18pm
	Is there an efficient way of estimating the life or amount of adjustment left on the brakes? If these are near the end, I just soon as replace them before installing a loader. Any help appreciated. Tracy Martin

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DanD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: WI Points: 856	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanD Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 8:34am
	The only adjustment for the brakes is basically turning the rods from the pedal to the band assembly. They are threaded where they go into the band assembly but it really only adjusts the free travel of the pedal. You may be able to see the edges of the discs if you look down through the cover, but it's still really hard to tell how much wear is left. Sorry for not much useful information.

Clay Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9886	Post Options Post Reply Quote Clay Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 9:08am
	Tracy, Dan is right. If you have the opportunity, remove the rods and coat them with anti-seize. In the future, you or the next person to adjust the brakes will thank me.

Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 9:10am
	Yes....try adjusting the rods. If they twist off it is time to do the brakes :)
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JC-WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34328	Post Options Post Reply Quote JC-WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 10:22pm
	Just came in from trying to adjust brakes on my 170... It use to have good brakes since 1975.. bought it with 1200 hours and brakes had been replaced just before that. This summer the right brake peddle started hitting the loader frame and the left one was an inch farther down... I was going to just turn the rods in and neither would turn at all... right hole the brake rod goes thru has stufflaying there and i started pulling the crap out and there was brake lining in there... so much for that side. and the other side is full of dust. Time to put another set of brakes in it, previous set only lasted 37 years... Now big question is, who handles the best quality of brakes to replace these? And should a fellow bite the bullets and replace everything in there? Springs drums balls bands etc... Gotta start soaking those stuck rods with PB Blaster..

Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10781	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 10:30pm
	Just figured there was a way to estimate how much adjustment was left. If there is plenty left, it would save alot of trouble replacing them. I have no idea if they are original or replacements. How much of the threaded brake rod shows when brakes are new? Thanks Tracy Martin

Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 10:47pm
	Tracy I think I had about an inch of thread showing on mine after adjusting to specs after new linings were installed. A lot depends on the condition of the drums....on one tractor the drum was worn 1/2" less in diameter than the other side (and very thin). I replaced it with a better on. As I stated earlier, if you can't turn the adjusting rods it is a moot point....I had to remove some of mine with the rod attached and heat to orange several times to get it loose without twisting it off. I was lucky, I had two parts tractors to help out.....I hear the drums get spendy.
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Tracy Martin TN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gallatin,TN Points: 10781	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tracy Martin TN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 10:52pm
	Eldon, brake pedal side or short side showing an inch? Tracy Martin

Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 11:01pm
	I think you can only see the brake pedal side when everything is assembled....If I get a chance I will double check tomorrow on a couple of tractors.....it is time to re-adjust a couple anyway.
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