1 gate, need 2 different locks

Lock the locks to each other and to the chains at the end of the lock set, open any lock and chain is open regardless which one is opened. Instruct the Dopes as to HOW to lock them together, include a photo, they fail to do that and stop the program make them all find some place else to play. INCLUDING the utility, they are the ones that taught me that process.

Edited by DMiller - 22 Apr 2020 at 7:58pm

desert joe you have my attention sometimes well most of the time the simple things are the hardest for me to see 

whats wrong with 1 lock' an have some keys made.

dawntreader74 wrote: whats wrong with 1 lock' an have some keys made.

Edited by iowallis - 23 Apr 2020 at 5:29am

dawntreader74 wrote: whats wrong with 1 lock' an have some keys made.

Utilities, and some others, generally use a common lock on their facilities for access of their employees. They don't want to give that key to the general public and it isn't practical to distribute a bunch of odd keys for various sites to all their employees who might need access to many different sites during an outage or such. And I don't think joe public should have a key to a substation, etc.; which is what would happen if the utility's key was given out.

He might in his case; what I described is the arrangement for access to a number of remote sites I have worked at over the years. As a contractor we had to add a lock to the chain for our crews to enter and had to remove it when the job completed. For security reasons we were not allowed to have the utility, or owner's key, as they used that same lock/key set at multiple locations. And yes something as simple as always locking the lock you opened into the next lock to make a single link chain seems to be too challenging a task for some to complete properly. We also had to give our client contact a copy of our key in case someone on our crew locked wrong. Differences in gates, and how they get secured, makes it hard to figure out how to prevent this problem.

i still want to see this oil field thing

I've seen them oilfield locks in the Permian basin (Midland/Odessa/Hobbs),, I had to get out and look, they are simple,but effective..they have a spinning wheel with holes that the locks are in, when the lock is removed, the gate latch will slide thru that hole and open the gate,with the lock in place, the latch will not fit through the hole..

This is the kind I've seen

Another Alternate a friend of mine uses is allow TWO lengths of chain bolted to the post with One lock of Your choice on one chain to chain opening and allow the others to use the Other opening for ALL their locks. Dope screws that up you can still open yours and remove theirs. Point taken with previous post, note which is the offender and refuse them access until they can learn how to do this.

If there are multiple key holders for one lock you can almost be certain you will need to find "Not Me" to educate him, at least that was who I always had to look for when the gates were locked wrong. Also it is interesting the effort that some put into locking a gate wrong, compared to simply locking into the lock on the loose end. Had one (luckily not one of my crew) that managed to get 4 other properly chained padlock shackles captured in the shackle of his lock, owner was PO'd. Two chains just long enough that the number of locks needed must be there to make it reach is worth a try, any extra chain and there is a 99% chance someone will screw it up sooner or later.