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SteveM C/IL
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Topic: hugger headPosted: 21 Oct 2026 at 10:39pm |
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How many acres would be an average for wearing stalk roll blades before flipping them. Mine has around 700 and feeding was an issue this fall especially on the left outside row. Upon cleaning things up I see leading edges are getting rounded. Is this in the ballpark for my head? It gets force fed but hey!
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cwhit
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Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Sigel IL Points: 1039 |
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Posted: 22 Oct 2026 at 5:27am |
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I assume you mean 700 total and not 700 per row. AGCO or Shoup? There is a little difference. Had some aftermarket ones before and they didn’t seem too last as long. I will say this year seemed tougher with feeding issues, a specially in late afternoon. Could go pretty good and then around 3 o’clock would have to slow down cause of feeding problems and when the sun started going down could speed back up again. Thought it was just me cause mine are pretty worn and will be replaced before next season. Stuff was extra fluffy this year.
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Leon B MO
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Posted: 22 Oct 2026 at 7:05am |
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We put all new flutes on after the first 50 acres. We didn't realize how badly they were worn until we started putting the new ones on. World of difference. We got ours from Shoup. 8 row 30 hugger on an R62.
Leon B Mo
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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DrAllis
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Posted: 22 Oct 2026 at 7:17am |
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My philosophy has always been, you can replace the blades once. Then, when they need replacement again, the spirol roll points need to be replaced too. You are all aware of the "updated" blade improvement in a service bulletin from AGCO ??? They have you cutting out material in certain spots of the blades at the front to create a "window" for better feeding. It's probably a 10 year old bulletin. Your dealer should be able to provide you with it. It does help on blades that are so-so for wear and have feeding problems.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 22 Oct 2026 at 7:58am |
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When I bought this head it had new flutes and spirals the year before. Guessing AGCO because of where work was done. I trimmed the flutes per bulletin first year. Never had before and after experience on that to say how much it helps.
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tbran
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Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paris Tn Points: 3741 |
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Posted: 22 hours 22 minutes ago at 10:05am |
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We weld up the spiral flutes to just over factory height by a final pass with a hard surface pass. The flutes, as Doc states , are very important. Header speed - matching load and ground speed drastically reduces header loss - butt shelling. We had a tremendous corn crop this year and didn't realize the header loss until about the second week - slowed the unit down - as we had to travel slower - and the volunteer corn almost went away. The lack of frost so far has been an eye opening -visual - shock to a lot as to crop loss.
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SilverShoes
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Joined: 20 Feb 2014 Location: Seneca, Kansas Points: 232 |
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Posted: 9 hours 53 minutes ago at 10:34pm |
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We started cutting ours back several years before the bulletin because if you look at the flutes the corn stalk really can’t even get in the flutes when they are new. We would always were out the sprirals and the beginning edges of the flutes. After the cutting flutes back we were just cutting these stalks off and all the material was going through the processor which put undo wear on the rest of the machine and caused rotor loss. We started moving away from huggers and to Drago heads. Huge increase in capacity all the way around because the flutes open and close. It was like going from an auger head to a Draper. Hugger was a well built head but in my opinion the gearbox’s are built with the flutes too close together and there was no way to address it. We even used some after market flute designs and still was an issue. This is why the hugger left for the new Agco cornhead which I think is probably a much better design as a whole.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 1 hour 51 minutes ago at 6:36am |
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I had a customer who farmed quite a few acres with an N-5 and an N-438 corn head. In the Fall of 1988, the combine division brought us an experimental Hugger head for us to put some acres on. The design was complete, but they just wanted some more acres of testing time to verify. What a corn head !!! It was sooo faar ahead of what we or anyone else had at that point in history. It sat so low and so flat and the snapping rolls just destroyed the corn stalks.
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